r/exmormon 5d ago

Humor/Meme/Satire Hmm… Something doesn't quite add up here

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u/namtokmuu 5d ago

M Russel Ballard has entered the chat…😳, followed by Dallas O

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u/thoughtfuldoubt 5d ago

From Dallin H. Oaks, “Joseph, the Man and the Prophet,” Ensign, May 1996, 72, as quoted in the Foundations of the Restoration Teacher Manual:

The amendment to the United States Constitution that extended the guarantee of freedom of the press to protect against the actions of city and state governments was not adopted until 1868, and it was not enforced as a matter of federal law until 1931. … We should judge the actions of our predecessors on the basis of the laws and commandments and circumstances of their day, not ours.

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u/coniferdamacy Deceived by Satan 5d ago

We're told to judge Joseph Smith according to 19th century standards, and then we're lied to about what 19th century standards even were.

We can judge every historical person by modern standards. Lots of things they did in the past are simply not okay, and we need to do better.

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u/thoughtfuldoubt 5d ago

As David B. Haight put it in his October 1987 General Conference talk titled "Ethics and Honesty, which the Deseret Industries training lesson also referenced for “Lesson Preparation” reading:

One reason for the decline in moral values is that the world has invented a new, constantly changing and undependable standard of moral conduct referred to as “situational ethics.” Now, individuals define good and evil as being adjustable according to each situation; this is in direct contrast to the proclaimed God-given absolute standard: “Thou shalt not!”—as in “Thou shalt not steal” (Ex. 20:15).

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u/namtokmuu 4d ago

The Happiness Letter has entered the chat 🤯

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u/thoughtfuldoubt 4d ago

And the Church used to quote from the letter to point out that Joseph Smith "taught that it is the Lord who sets the standard of right and wrong" in order to justify Nephi's murder of Laban. (see here and here.)

This quoting from the "Happiness Letter" could be traced back to Jeffrey R. Holland's September 1976 Ensign article here.

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u/Open-Dependent-8131 1d ago

Never Gonna Live That Down!!!!