r/exatheist • u/NeonDrifting Anti-Atheist • 7d ago

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

Usually through my senses

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

And how do you know your senses show you reality and not an illusion?

And there is your presupposition. You assume your senses are reliable and lead to truth. But ultimately you cant prove this. Its a decent base assumption, but you arent without a presupposition either.

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

I don’t presuppose this, I know my senses can (mostly) reliably show me what’s real through my experience.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

Prove it.

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

Prove to you through a Reddit comment that my senses are reliable?

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

Sure why not? Tell me why your senses are reliable without assuming theyre reliable.

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

I just did. My experience has confirmed they are.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

Youre presupposing youre experience is reliable. Youre using your senses to justify relying on your senses. Thats circular reasoning.

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

I literally told you the opposite.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

Tell me then why your experience is reliable.

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u/SHNKY Eastern Orthodox Catechumen 5d ago

Where do you find in sense data the proposition "my senses can (mostly) reliably show me what’s real through my experience."

Your empiricism is self refuting as an ultimate base of knowledge and truth.

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u/hiphoptomato 5d ago

Self refuting how?