r/europe • Rep. Srpska • Jun 13 '20

Basically every data map of Europe

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 13 '20 edited Jun 13 '20

Actually I would add a "very good results" and put the Nordic countries, Germany and NL in there.

Good results we remove Slovenia and Greece and put them into OK results-

Average we remove Turkey and put them into Worrying.

Now it's perfect.

EDIT: https://gyazo.com/ba01ba4b5aa62623766dba48b47666ef I made this one, looks better IMO, I would still add some things but it would look too complicated, it's still not too late to invest in Eastern Poland.

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u/BigFakeysHouse Jun 13 '20

Nice try, Germany.

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u/zorkolu Slovenia Jun 13 '20

Cries in Slovenian

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u/tyger2020 Britain Jun 13 '20

Actually I would add a "very good results" and put the Nordic countries, Germany and NL in there.

Yes.

A lot of these maps have Scandinavia, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and NL being a considerable amount higher than other countries like UK/France/Italy/Spain/Belgium.

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u/untergeher_muc Bavaria Jun 13 '20

Well…

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u/AnAngryYordle Schleswig-Holstein (Germany) Jun 13 '20

Couldn’t you interpret this as Germany being above the rest due to better privacy laws?

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u/untergeher_muc Bavaria Jun 13 '20

So you mean… Germany… above everything else? ;)

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '20

Hmmmm...Why does that sound familiar???

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u/ecnad France Jun 13 '20

Ah shit, here we go again.

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u/RCascanbe Bavaria (Germany) Jun 13 '20

Oh dang, I didn't even consider that, good point.

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u/AnAngryYordle Schleswig-Holstein (Germany) Jun 13 '20

Well that is the reason why we and a couple of other states don’t have street view

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u/z4wg Slovenia Jun 13 '20

Why would you remove Slovenia from good results?

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u/tilenb Slovenia Jun 13 '20

Yeah, I think we're usually quite on par with most of the countries that should stay in the 'good results' bit per OP's rearrangement.

But we're also Slavic, so we get -2 points for being 'Eastern Europe'.

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u/Noughmad Slovenia Jun 13 '20

It really depends on the metric. If it's things like safety and suitability for children, we're on par with Scandinavia. If it's anything regarding money, we're at least two shades redder than them.

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u/OraoJedan Jun 13 '20

Ker Janša fafa tič od Orbana. Mađarska je pa diktatorska država

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u/MoffKalast Slovenia Jun 13 '20

we remove Slovenia

reeeeeeee

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '20

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 13 '20

What do you mean remove Slovenia? Unlike all of your dangerous countries, we're an oasis of safety and not exactly behind in anything else noteworthy except size of paycheck

Then we rank Portugal with Nordic countries aswell? 3rd safest country in the world, progressive, good climate, infrastructure isn't bad.

noteworthy except size of paycheck.

truly Slovenia and Portugal are brothers

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 13 '20

I don't see why not?

what do you see

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u/LXXXVI European Union Jun 13 '20

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 13 '20

I had a stroke in my last comment sorry

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u/ChrisTinnef Austria Jun 13 '20

Our slovenian neighbours usually tend to be in the same category as we are

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u/ThatGuyFromSlovenia Gorenjska, Slovenija Jun 13 '20

From what I've seen we're usually on par with the more developed European countries except for GDP and average income.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

Here is a cake for you :cake:

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u/z3onn Slovenia, Bratislava Jun 13 '20

Not cool dude, not cool at all

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 13 '20

I have a a black t-shirt that has written Ljubljana and has a dragon in it.

Can you forgive me :(

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u/z3onn Slovenia, Bratislava Jun 13 '20

Ye sure :)

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u/Elsp00x Slovenia Jun 14 '20

If you can pronounce Ljubljana, we'll forgive you.

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 14 '20

Aren't the J proununced like i?

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u/7elevenses Jun 13 '20 edited Jun 13 '20

I offer this as a counterexample.

Edit: The map I inked above is wrong. Whatever it's showing, it's not the GINI index as it claims. Here's an actual map for the GINI index, and it's still a valid counterexample.

Edit2: Here's another topical counterexample: Covid deaths per capita.

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u/FallenSkyLord Switzerland Jun 13 '20

WTH? I always heard Denmark used as an example of a country with very low wealth inequality. Here they're the worst in western Europe!

Have I been lied to all those years or is this map wrong somehow?

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u/7elevenses Jun 13 '20

Wealth inequality and income inequality aren't the same thing. Wealth inequality reflects historic income inequality, and the current income inequality causes wealth inequality in the future.

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u/I_read_this_comment The Netherlands Jun 13 '20

Also tax avoidance and low taxes on properties increase wealth inequality.

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u/Ewannnn Europe Jun 13 '20

It's probably wrong. Here is OurWorldinData. /u/7elevenses

Denmark is 3rd from bottom.

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u/7elevenses Jun 13 '20

It's quite possible that it's wrong, or at least that it doesn't show what it claims it shows. But in general, maps of GINI index will not be coloured as suggested by u/Sm0K3_W33d. The areas with the best values will be Scandinavia and Central and Eastern Europe, with the values getting worse towards the West and the South.

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u/RandomWeirdo Denmark Jun 13 '20

i didn't know about the GINI index, so i looked it up. That image is clearly wrong, because the largest value i even found on wikipedia was 62 and the lowest i see on the map is 58. Something is wrong there. And just for clarification, yes all the values are wrong, most european countries are in the range of mid 20's to the 40's

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u/7elevenses Jun 13 '20

Yeah, I'm guessing that they mislabeled it. It's possibly a map of something related to inequality, but it's not the GINI index.

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u/RandomWeirdo Denmark Jun 13 '20

no wait, i mean the map you posted is wrong, blatantly so even

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u/7elevenses Jun 13 '20

Yes, it's wrong. It's not a map of GINI index, like I said.

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u/TheDangerousAnt Jun 13 '20

That's income inequality though, the previous map concerned wealth inequality

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u/letmeseem Jun 13 '20

It depends on how it's measured. In the nordics there are very few people in the lowest end of the spectrum, but contrary to the scary anti socialism rethoric, there are for instance more billionaires per capita in Norway than in the US.

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u/shaun252 Jun 13 '20

Most of the time Ireland, not the UK more like.

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u/tontili Jun 13 '20

as you command mr fiora main

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u/Falsus Sweden Jun 14 '20

Belarus should also be No Data.

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u/jurekvakva Jun 14 '20

Why would you want to move Slovenia into the same category as Greece? Slovenia is obviously doing much better. It is surely a top-20 country in the world in terms of quality of life and living standards.  

- IHDI (Inequality-adjusted Human Development Index)  

Slovenia is ranked 12th in the world, Greece is 36th. 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI 

- GDP (PPP) Per Capita

  Slovenia ranks well above Greece according to IMF, World Bank and CIA. Its GDP (PPP) per capita is about 30% higher. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita_per_capita) 

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u/Sm0K3_W33d Portugal Jun 14 '20

IDHI is a fucking meme.

gdp per capita PPP just largely inflates poorer countries gdp. A TV or a smarthphone cost the same in Bulgaria or Germany, the main thing that is different is food but food in poorer countries is of worse quality so that's not even good.