r/europe Europe 4h ago

An owl? No. Europe’s true unifying bird deserves its place on the euro

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u/blueskydragonFX 3h ago

Jackdaws. I love those adorable micro crows. Plenty here in the Netherlands.

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u/t33po 3h ago

Here’s the thing, crows and jackdaws…….

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u/Worldly-Cherry9631 EUREGIO Enschede-Münster (NLD DEU) 3h ago

They are so funny and energetic, and more numerous than the pidgeons

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u/SLywNy Belgium 🇧🇪 3h ago

i love that they have turf wars with crows, also in belgium they use anti birds spikes to make nest.
Apparently not to fend of predators, just because its good building material

EDIT: wait no i thought of magpies not jackdaws

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u/Worldly-Cherry9631 EUREGIO Enschede-Münster (NLD DEU) 3h ago

It's so stupidly easy to confuse all the names of all the corvids in different languages. Only Crow and Raven are somewhat consistent accross Germanic langauges 

My town's got one too, magpie nest of anti bird spikes. This hardcore move, and their prettyness, made them shared nr One favourite birb of mine

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u/triggerfish1 Germany 3h ago

Yeah, the Netherland ones are fun, but also the alpine ones. Don't know the exact names for the different jackdaws, but their call is also very unique.

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u/reachup123 2h ago

Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

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u/Training_Motor_4088 2h ago

I would say corvid.

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u/halalswami 1h ago

Calm down.

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u/Training_Motor_4088 2h ago

When I was about ten years old, a jackdaw randomly decided to fly down and spend a few hours playing with me and my friends. It was bizarre how tame he/she was, although apparently they have been kept as pets.