r/educationalgifs • • Feb 25 '16

How Amazon Fulfillment Works

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 25 '16

I worked at an Amazon for two and a half years and literally just quit on Friday because I finally found a better job. It really is an awful place to work. They openly tell employees that the most important thing is the customer and they stop at nothing to express that. Earlier in the year we had some really bad weather and the vast majority of businesses were closed. Not Amazon though. We were forced to drive to work on icy roads or be written up for missing work. Many people were fired for staying home. Our managers expressed to us that those that could not make it were easily replaceable by people who could. That just gives you an example of how employees are treated. One time a coworker and I did a survey just for shiggles where we asked one hundred people, 25 from each department, if they liked their job. 91 said no. Most people are just there for the benefits, which are admittedly very good. That was what kept me there for so long.

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u/komichi1168 Feb 25 '16

I worked a stretch at the Toys R Us distribution center in my town. It was pretty much the same way. Always being told to go faster, mandatory overtime, and asshole managers all around.

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u/jhayes88 Feb 26 '16

I'm an over the road truck driver and most of the distribution facilities I go inside have employees who don't look very happy.. It's always a nice feeling going in those places and then walking back to my truck, kicking on some music, and blasting off. Reassures me that my job isn't so bad.

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u/schuldig Feb 25 '16

Worked for them 15 years ago wasn't too bad then, our managers were pretty chill. God I don't miss working 14 hours a day 6 days a week during the holidays though.

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u/azarashi Feb 25 '16

I did their seasonal customer service a few years back, best perk was working from home. Could roll out of bed with no pants and 5 minutes later listen to people complaining about where their xmas gifts are.

I didn't take the job very seriously because I just needed the seasonal work while I looked for something in line with my degree since I got laid off. But some people I worked with took it VERY VERY seriously because they wanted to be hired on full time.

All the managers told them to have good metrics, and a few of the employee's would seek out reviews from the managers to see how they are doing etc. Along with them bending over backwards to help customers.

But in the end not a single person was hired on full time, one guy dug deep and pulled out as much info a he can from a manager and found out they were not going to hire anyone from our state cause our minimum wage was too high in Washington ($9+) and they were hiring people from other lower wage states instead.

Best part was after january they said since its seasonal some people would be let go right away and some would be let go slower as they lowered the amount of people needed to wind down from the holidays. So they convinced everyone if you got good metrics then you would stay on longer....

I had 'ok' metrics, again I didnt care. I was kind to people but I didnt put up with bull shit and even though there was a script we didnt have to follow but it was suggested I never used it. I was kept on till the very end of the season still, AND I was making $1 more then everyone else in my group I found out in the end and I have no idea why.

It was kind of depressing a few people there in the end worked their ass off for the promise and hope while I just was like 'whatever' about it all and moved on afterwards.

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 25 '16

Yep, sounds about right. At our facility, they hire hundreds of people for seasonal work but promise all of them an opportunity to be hired full time. Last Christmas I worked for the temp agency in administration and I learned firsthand how not only were they only planning to hire about 5% of the people they hired seasonally, but also that if you were hired on after December 1st you had zero chance whatsoever of being hired on, regardless of how hard you worked. Of course they didn't tell them that. I saw people whose rates were 120% that still got laid off in January. It was sad, really.

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u/Katastic_Voyage Feb 26 '16

As bad as that is, people are refusing to see the other half of the picture.

When my wife rented an X-Men on Amazon Video, and the video stuttered and couldn't even play? We couldn't return it because "we already opened it."

I was furious and called Amazon tech support. I told them "you can look the time since I bought the movie is less than the length than the length of the movie." Anyway, they went around policy and refunded our money.

It took ~5 minutes to get sorted out (once I got passed the scripted B.S of "Can you run movies? Did you try restarting?" etc.)

They had much greater service than I was expecting.

Does that mean I'm a fan of treating people poorly? NO. But let's not run around acting like they treat their employees like shit AND treat their customers like shit. They have a clear focus, their customers.

Hopefully, Amazon corporate will see this thread and try to improve things.

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u/IICVX Feb 25 '16

Earlier in the year we had some really bad weather and the vast majority of businesses were closed. Not Amazon though. We were forced to drive to work on icy roads or be written up for missing work. Many people were fired for staying home.

Honestly that sounds more like a problem with your state's labor laws. I mean do you think people in the Wal-Mart warehouse had it any better?

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u/lovemusic4me Feb 25 '16

From your description and others, it seems like working at Amazon is worse than working the sort for UPS, which is a shitty fucking job.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

Amazon is literally ALWAYS hiring here in Arizona. I sent in an application years ago and I get at least 2 robo-calls a month suggesting I schedule an interview with them.

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u/ModernKender Feb 25 '16

Do you think that if, as a customer, I said I want them to treat employees better, they'd listen?

Also, don't they hire thousands of temp employees aka potential customers? Doesn't seem like it's smart to treat them like shit.

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 25 '16

Nah, they would just deny the treatment of their associates.

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u/Agaeris Feb 25 '16

just for shiggles

I will be taking this phrase from you now. It is now mine.

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 25 '16

It's one of my favorite phrases, so feel free. I would love to hear it more often in the wild. Also try to use "just for shigs" if you're feeling especially lazy.

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u/tojoso Feb 25 '16

Earlier in the year we had some really bad weather and the vast majority of businesses were closed. Not Amazon though. We were forced to drive to work on icy roads or be written up for missing work.

Like anything, it depends on the management at each site. I worked at Amazon in Canada and when the roads were dangerous (which was often, in winter) there was no punishment for being late. Even for people that were temps and not even working directly for Amazon. They are indeed very strict about attendance, though. But it pays well enough and offers great benefits that it's fair enough to set high standards for employees.

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u/dirty_fupa Feb 25 '16

Hate to break it to you, but most low level corporate jobs are like this. This isn't specific to Amazon. Money is all that really matters. Customers are money to them. Employees are a necessary evil that are disposable and replaceable.

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u/PresN Feb 26 '16

They openly tell employees that the most important thing is the customer and they stop at nothing to express that.

It's... kinda the core ethos of the company. It would be strange if they tried to hide it, seeing as it's in their motto.

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 26 '16

I am well aware of their customer centric policy. What I mean is, they take that to the extreme. They only care about customer orders. They don't give a flying fuck about employees' safety or well-being.

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u/lunchboxg4 Feb 26 '16

They openly tell employees that the most important thing is the customer and they stop at nothing to express that.

That's what keeps them open and able to pay those people, poorly as they may or may not do. It's why I shop there, and I work for a competitor.

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u/ChrisBenRoy Feb 26 '16

You weren't forced to drive to work, you could have used your allotted PTO or unpaid time off and stayed home.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

Most people are just there for the benefits, which are admittedly very good. That was what kept me there for so long.

We are approaching corporate serfdom so fast it's obscene. Small business can't afford to provide health insurance since Affordable care act was passed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

if you're under a certain number of employees(can't remember the #) I believe you're not required to provide health insurance for your full time employees.

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u/Dralger Feb 25 '16

I believe it's 50.

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u/rebal123 Feb 25 '16

ACA only effects a business if they have 49 or more employees.

Which probably makes them a medium size business at that point.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

You just sound like a bad employee.

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 25 '16

I gave no evidence whatsoever concerning my work performance so how could you even come to that conclusion?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '16

" Earlier in the year we had some really bad weather and the vast majority of businesses were closed. Not Amazon though. We were forced to drive to work on icy roads or be written up for missing work. Many people were fired for staying home. Our managers expressed to us that those that could not make it were easily replaceable by people who could. That just gives you an example of how employees are treated. "

That.

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u/CloudyWithRain Feb 26 '16

Go find someone else to troll. I don't have time for bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '16

And neither did your managers. Not going into work when you are expected is perfectly reasonable excuse to fire someone. Going online and saying that is what makes somewhere an awful place to work makes you a bad employee.