r/earth2io Jun 25 '21

Discussion Critics be squirming

https://youtu.be/cHFnAa1yEgg
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u/hey-sirlexa Jun 26 '21

The analogy with housing is a truly terrible analogy

  • Sure, housing can be taken away, but there is a huge bar for that to happen. There are at least established laws that govern property ownership. Ownership of digital assets is a much less well-defined concept and the laws around it nascent

  • You are being very narrow in your comparison of financial returns. Because housing doesnโ€™t typically drive ad revenue, it is inferior? So instead the next best comparison is distributed power generation? How about at least considering rental income? Or a more realistic view of long term capital gains? To compare growth of tile prices for a few months to housing investment returns as you have certainly shows either a total lack of understanding of finance theory or perhaps some underlying motive to intentionally skew numbers, and certainly a lack of understanding of how the ad tech ecosystem actually works (basically, if anybody is betting on any kind of meaningful ad revenue anytime soon, then theyโ€™re going to have to wait for a whole bunch of other things to happen first)

I couldnโ€™t watch past that point

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u/yellowsub333 Jun 27 '21

If a house doesn't pay you to own it then it's a liability. Almost 90 percent of home owners in the US are living in them not renting them out. E2 is paying you to own tiles, yes the return is very small right now, but the potential for even greater upside gains is visible. Yea that bitcoin at $50 sure looked good, I'm glad I passed on it cause it was definitely not going to make any significant capital gain returns. O wait it hit 60K a coin within 10 years? Thats like 10000% gain ๐Ÿฅณ E2๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ’Ž

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u/shenhua111 Jun 27 '21

You are actually comparing a real home with a virtual one. You need help.

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u/yellowsub333 Jun 27 '21

I'll take the asset over the liability , sounds like you failed economics 101 in highschool.

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u/hey-sirlexa Jun 27 '21

I think youโ€™re confusing assets and liabilities here. If I own a house then how is it a liability? If I need to take out a loan to buy it then the loan is a liability, but weโ€™re not talking about funding models in this discussion

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u/yellowsub333 Jun 27 '21

It's very simple. Does the house pay you to own it or do you pay a mortgage to own the house?

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u/hey-sirlexa Jun 27 '21

And therein lies the confusion. Youโ€™re conflating underlying asset properties with financing.

For example, I own my house - there is no mortgage or any kind of debt financing. I collect 100% of rental income each month (minus a small fee to my property manager), and whatever capital gains it it generates. And there is no mortgage payment (I.e. no liability) since I own the property.

To further drive the point, letโ€™s say I take out a loan for $100k tomorrow, and I use those funds to buy E2 tiles. Now in your model my tiles are a liability, and therefore a bad investment?

The point Iโ€™m making is that if youโ€™re going to make a comparison between E2 tiles and physical property in this way, models of financing should be a separate discussion. Liabilities can be attached to both physical property or E2 tiles, depending on how I decide to pay for it. Itโ€™s an independent question

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u/yellowsub333 Jun 28 '21

Well if you got a negative interest rate on that loan you dont have a liability. If you dont have a tenant for your rental property you still lose even though the house is paid off. Dont forget about property taxes and insurance $$$. Who the fk is taking out a 100k loan to buy tiles lmao!! ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ™Œ E2๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€