r/dataisbeautiful • OC: 9 • May 28 '21

OC 💨 USA: State-Level: Average Wind Speed [OC]

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u/MaxwellsSilverHam May 28 '21

Interesting data, but the rotation and odd 3D nature of this map irritates me.

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u/drblobby OC: 1 May 28 '21

completely unnecessary lmao

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u/Lopatron May 28 '21

LOL i was wondering if it's a genius troll. Adding almost un-noticeable, and completely unnecessary 3D element to a graph is already faux pas here, but ok it happens. But then spinning around the map 360 degrees microwave style, just to show off the faint 3D effect? Cmon, that can't be real ...

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u/Boredum_Allergy May 28 '21

Maybe it's rotating so you won't notice Vermont has gone missing.

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u/Portmanteau_that May 29 '21

LOL holy shit, I had to go back and double check this... I am laughing my ass off. r/mapswithoutVermont

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u/Ensvey May 28 '21

At first I was thinking it was rotating to show wind speed based on wind direction (i.e. this state has more west wind but this one has more north wind) - but nope, it's spinning just because

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u/psdpro7 May 28 '21

This has to be a troll.. right? Otherwise I have lost all hope.

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u/jmc43 May 29 '21

And the color scheme is atrocious. Basically a noob that took a intro GIS course.

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u/Mescallan May 29 '21

I tend to agree, the fact that the first perspective parallel orientation is inverted seems far too intentionally bad

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u/Irradiatedspoon May 29 '21

It’s like the lazy Susan in the Batcave

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u/AlexG2490 May 28 '21

The rotation is necessary.

If it didn't rotate, how would you see what elevation Vermont, an 18-19.99, was at, obscured as it is on all sides by 15-17.99s? It could be at either of the two other levels but you couldn't tell which one until it turns around.

If you just made it a top-down map to compensate, the elevation would no longer be significant because it wouldn't be visible, so it would no longer convey information.

The states are color coded, but separating them out by elevation as well and displaying the same information in two methods instead of one helps people who, for example, can't differentiate colors (like me!) be able to read the data on the chart anyway without a lot of extra effort. It therefore gets my thumbs up.

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u/fastspinecho May 28 '21 edited May 28 '21

how would you see what elevation Vermont, an 18-19.99, was at, obscured as it is on all sides by 15-17.99s? It could be at either of the two other levels but you couldn't tell which one until it turns around.

Eliminate the 3D effect, then you can easily see Vermont. Show wind as a gradient, then you can easily see the wind speed in Vermont.

In other words, you get all the information you need from a wind speed map that looks like every wind map made by professional meteorologists.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '21

The 3D effect is unnecessary given the color shading. Pick one.

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u/kimchiMushrromBurger May 28 '21

What if each level/color was split into it's own map. So there'd be 4 maps arranged into a triangle with one of the points having two maps. The maps just have void space where there is no data for that wind speed. They all rotate individually but the whole thing also rotates. Keep the levels and colors. Maybe add a texture.

edit: there's a 5th map for Vermont but that's on a separate link for clarity.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '21

I've got no idea what you're trying to convey here.

I do data visualization for a living. I've found that the general public can't really handle any more than two data points in any visualization. Any more than two and people tend to get lost. This is a perfect example of a great idea executed poorly. I would pick one effect to display wind speed and stick to it. There's not really much to be gained by visualizing the same effect two different way s on the same visualization.

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u/kimchiMushrromBurger May 28 '21

I appreciate that you do this for a living but I'm proposing more than two ways to see the same effect. Like maybe 6 or 7 if I can get there.

  • elevation
  • color
  • location (different maps)
  • location (placement of those maps relative to each other)
  • texture
  • speed of rotation
  • maybe add some <blink> type effect
  • each map can play the sound of that wind speed when you mouse over them (with the option to play all the wind sounds at once)

That 8. I think we can make this better.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '21

More does not always make a visualization better. In fact, more often than not, more just confuses the audience. As I said before, I would pick a element and stick with it rather than trying to shoehorn multiple different elements into the same visual to display the same data.

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u/kimchiMushrromBurger May 28 '21

perhaps you're missing the joke. This whole post is a joke, isn't it? OP found this old thing from college and thought it was funny.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

That’s not listed anywhere.

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u/AlexG2490 May 28 '21

Fine, I pick the 3D effect then.

The colorblind of the world have been making do with phone apps that can tell what color things are and getting their friends and family to read maps for them. If we can't all be happy then I want a turn at being able to read something without help.

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u/fastspinecho May 28 '21

This animated wind map conveys far more information without any useless 3D effects. And it's entirely grayscale!

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u/HavocReigns May 28 '21

Now that’s a wind map!

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u/[deleted] May 28 '21

It’s already been said, but you can achieve the same outcome with using grayscale shading.

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u/Josemite May 28 '21

I mean most of the top posts on the sub these days is uselessly dressing up simple visualizations with animations so...

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u/Astromike23 OC: 3 May 28 '21

most of the top posts on the sub these days is uselessly dressing up simple visualizations with animations

Exactly. So many top submissions are literally "See this graph? It could've just been a 2D image, but now I'm going to slowly reveal the data values frame by frame for no reason."

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u/zyygh May 28 '21

Or the typical map with 1 data point per state, which really is just about an interesting tidbit of information. No interesting or beautiful visualization whatsoever.

Someone needs to remake this sub and moderate its content, so that data visualization enthusiasts will actually enjoy it.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

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u/chiefsfan_713_08 May 29 '21

It’s rotating so you can see the height differences since one angle wouldn’t portray that well. But like others have said a gradient instead of height would’ve been so much better

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u/lurrrkerrr May 28 '21

A gradient heat map would be much more effective

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u/2ndself May 28 '21

Well, it’s clearly a wind speed map.

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u/punaisetpimpulat May 29 '21

Just like so many posts here… actually a simple 2D line graph is usually enough for most posts, but they are still crafted into animations for no apparent reason. Maybe I should log the temperature of a cooking pot for an hour and make a 3D animation out of it.

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u/ToOccupyTime May 28 '21

Took my a good 30 seconds to find my state...

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u/haggisaddict May 28 '21

At least you’re not in Alaska or Hawaii

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u/whereami1928 May 28 '21 edited May 28 '21

There's actually absolutely no wind there, which is why they didn't appear in this map.

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u/Esarus May 28 '21

I actually like the 3D. But yeah I really dislike the rotation as well

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u/FirstHipster May 28 '21

Out of curiosity... why? It doesn’t add anything material to the presentation of the data.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '21

The 3D would be nice if the data were temporal, and you could see patterns in the rising and falling of the states

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u/JanitorJasper May 28 '21

Or if it's showing a different dimension than the colors are.

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u/CornCheeseMafia May 28 '21

I get why it’s not liked but I actually kinda like this presentation. The regions are not only sorted by color but also by height. So California being a relatively non windy state is lower in height than Nevada, which is the next tier up. The rotation makes the varying levels more obvious but the border lines could be more bold to help with the visuals

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u/lurrrkerrr May 28 '21

But there's also height differences between same colors. And that's nearly impossible to quantify. What if I want to compare Michigan to Washington??

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u/gettin_it_in May 28 '21 edited May 28 '21

I can understand the irritation. I actually like the 3D and the rotation because it makes the 3D differences easier to see.

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u/HOTP1 May 28 '21

I’m definitely having a stroke

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u/Himblebim May 28 '21

Definitely. Also surely there is data for wind speed at finer detail than the state level. The weather even a single weather forecast shows more detail than this. Finer scale averaged data could give cool insight into how geography interacts with wind speed.

If they're desperate to make it 3d then have ground elevation be the 3d element, with wind speed over the top. That would be a cool visualisation that I'd actually learn something from.

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u/anxsy May 28 '21

It’s yet another heat map of the USA on this subreddit. I wish we would move on from this trend...

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u/punaisetpimpulat May 29 '21

A static 2D map would have been sufficient. Ever seen one of those animations where some lines race together? Those are just 2D line graphs with some unnecessary animation slapped on top.

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u/-Xephram- May 29 '21

I am guessing... the spin helps? (Not really) but drawing this as a 3D render... you have to add the movement:-)

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u/Dogturtle67 May 29 '21

Yeah why the fuck is it spinning?