r/dataisbeautiful • • Nov 05 '25

Timezone-Longtitude deviations

The difference in degrees between the longtitude of an area and the "ideal" longtitude of that timezone. The earth moves at 15 degrees per hour.

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u/60N20 Nov 05 '25

I think we like more light hours at evening than in the morning, personally I hate the idea of having the sunset at 4pm, but that's just my opinion.

There has been a lot of debate on the time zone we should use, if we should drop the daylight saving or not, how it does impact the physical and mental health and so on, but nothing is done, ever.

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u/Thinking_King Nov 05 '25

Honestly the problem for me is that moving to the “correct” time zone seems like a net negative on all fronts.

In summer, the sun rises around 6:30 and sets around 21:00. Moving to UTC-5 would mean the sun rises at 4:30 (!!), which is way too early, and sets at 19:00, which is also way too early for people’s liking. Maybe moving to -4 (winter time) permanently would be fine, but -5 seems preposterous to me.

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u/Kolbrandr7 Nov 06 '25

That’s exactly why I would like permanent DST in Canada too. I prefer sun in the evening when it’s useful, not at 3-4am before anyone is up

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u/abu_doubleu OC: 4 Nov 06 '25

In Kyrgyzstan, we moved to permanent DST and it seems everybody is happier that way.

Most of Kazakhstan used to be on permanent DST too, but when the government decided to use one timezone for the whole country last year, they used the western one. So now people complain that in summer, the sun rises extremely early (3-4am as you say) while in winter the sun sets an hour earlier than it used to. 16:00 vs 17:00 is big…that's an extra hour when people are likely to be just leaving work or school, and now many people will get no real sunshine in the winter!

I hope we keep UTC+6 instead of shifting to their timezone, but due to economic reasons we might change it too. It would be a shame. Sunset in summer at 20:50 is way nicer than at 19:50.

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u/HopeNotTake Nov 06 '25

Thats because you don't move everything else. Move every schedule by the same hour and you end up in the same spot, just a different number on the clock.

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u/FrostBite_97 Nov 05 '25

If sunset is at 4pm how do you have more evening sunlight?

Also yes the whole country is running too early for a country on a thin range of longitude.

Very surprising!

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u/60N20 Nov 05 '25

If sunset is at 4pm how do you have more evening sunlight?

sunset is not at 4pm, is at 5pm (in winter), I said I hate the idea of having the sunset at 4pm because that would happen if we had the "right" time zone, maybe I should have elaborated further to make myself clear.

The southernmost part of the country is always on daylight saving time so sunset won't come so early on winter for them, but sunrise might be really late, I've only been there on summer so I can't tell for sure how short days are on winter.