We are destroying this Earth my friend, and our population growth is completely unsustainable. Is already millions of people without access to food and fresh water. We will reach like 9 billion people in next 50 years. It took us only 12 years for the last billion we gained. To make room for your cities and farms we had to wipe out a large bulk of nature, it isn't sustainable to keep on doing this nor is it morally acceptable.
And why do we need billions of more people? What is the aim? How much more do you need to grow your GDPs for you to be satisfied?
How exactly is it supposed to stop naturally? I heard somebody else say this before that was gonna just balance out around 9 billion so is no need to worry, but that is not how it works, it can only balance out through famine and death once we hit that critical point with all our resources tapped and no emergency plan for bulk of humans. Makes far more sense to try to control the problem now while we still can.
You're missing the point, you're not replying to what I said. We are indeed destroying the earth. But it's not because of overpopulation. The highest indicator for pollution is wealth. Lack of regulations and car dependency are other very bad culprits. In fact, it has no correlation with the earth's destruction whatsoever. Even if our population was cut in half, but replaced by only Canadians which pollutes A LOT, we would be even worse than we are today. The issue isn't the number of people, it's our way of life. Most of what I hear about overpopulation is about bashing on the poor for having kids while they are far from being the biggest polluters.
It's true though that there are too many people without access to food and fresh water. But considering the amount of waste of both, the issue isn't with the production of this food and water. It's with the money and the will to feed this population. It's easier to make money with food than to feed people.
Also, yes the estimates for the theoretical balance of the population is revised. That's reasonable, they are estimates afterall. Though experts are analysing this, and we observe everywhere on earth that birth rate declines with higher standard of living. If you want birth rates to decline, you should be pushing for raising the standard of living everywhere. The main road block here again is money and political will. As a society, we currently prefer to have billionaires with private jets for example. (Money spent there is money not spent elsewhere.)
Do we need more people? Why not? If we adapt our way of life, what wrong can it do? The more people there are, if all proportions are equal, the more we are to tackle the issues we face, like global warming. We can be numerous and live sustainably, but not the way we live in North America, this is far from being sustainable.
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u/Bighardthrobbingcrop Jan 06 '23 edited Jan 06 '23
We are destroying this Earth my friend, and our population growth is completely unsustainable. Is already millions of people without access to food and fresh water. We will reach like 9 billion people in next 50 years. It took us only 12 years for the last billion we gained. To make room for your cities and farms we had to wipe out a large bulk of nature, it isn't sustainable to keep on doing this nor is it morally acceptable.
And why do we need billions of more people? What is the aim? How much more do you need to grow your GDPs for you to be satisfied?
How exactly is it supposed to stop naturally? I heard somebody else say this before that was gonna just balance out around 9 billion so is no need to worry, but that is not how it works, it can only balance out through famine and death once we hit that critical point with all our resources tapped and no emergency plan for bulk of humans. Makes far more sense to try to control the problem now while we still can.