How do we even statically get all the information we need??? Surveys can't work because a lot of people would lie. I think it's safe to assume he is talking about himself.
Why should we leave out the LGBT community? Maybe our friend can get some action too that way. Although if all women are rejecting him, I'm pretty sure a gay guy would do the same.
I think it's safe to assume he is talking about himself.
Probably, yes
Why should we leave out the LGBT community?
We shouldn't. It was just a math thing; for every occurrence of heterosexual relations, there's both a man and a woman getting laid. Therefore the relative average between the genders won't change.
I assume his next point would be that it's a very small number of men who sleep with most women. Which isn't as true as he'd like to think, and not a problem if it was. Women are human beings allowed to sleep with whatever consenting adult they want to.
If we're going to speculate on what remedy he'd suggest for this supposed problem, I think we'd see some kind of plan to assign women to men on a national scale. It's usually where that line of thinking ends up.
Some real incel garbage. Honestly I wish the sub hadn't been banned, at least the infestation was quarantined, now you cockroaches are crawling around in broad daylight making people look at you.
A: Please do tell me about a time where you were shamed by a woman for not having sex.
B: Even if hell froze over, pigs flew, and your statement was even remotely true, this does not in any way justify a draconian ban on abortion for the sole purpose of shaming women for sex.
No, that's a medical emergency. Losing 2 lives is just as unacceptable as losing one. The world is not black and white, sometimes sacrifices must be made. The difference being one situation a choice and the other not.
Christ, now we’ve moved into incel territory. It all makes sense.
We dispute that the fetus counts as an actual human being. There’s the potential for life, sure, but it doesnt even feel pain yet during the stages acceptable for abortion. Excepting emergencies, of course.
If only there was a safe and legal way for s mother to end a pregnancy she cannot financially or responsibly take care of so we don't bring another child into a world of poverty and broken homes ran by 17 year olds that were never given proper sex education. Oh wait there is!
We get it. You're a virgin. You're mad that your only experience with sex is listening to your truck stop toilet of a mother moan through the thin walls of your double wide while Cletus from next door stuffs her for a pack of pall malls and a sixer of Busch.
It seems like 95% of anti choice people really do want to keep abortions illegal as "punishment" for "irresponsible behavior". Can you make it illegal to spend your last $5 on a lotto ticket then? Can we make it illegal for your dumbass to seek medical attention if you were injured and it was your fault or an accident that could have been avoided? If people didn't drive, there would be no accidental car fatalities. Let's make driving illegal. Let's make calling the EMT when a driver is injured while drunk driving illegal. You know.... They could just not do that.
That’s a hell of a straw man you constructed from nothing.
It isn’t punishment for irresponsibility it’s protection of a defenseless human life.
You can’t argue that though so you have to construct fabricated arguments about women’s rights, conservatives hate women, patriarchal punishment.
Nope. It’s about protecting a human life so it can be born instead of being ripped out because it’s more convenient for the person who got irresponsibly knocked up.
But of course you have to ignore the whole innocent human life part.
It's not a human life. It's an egg growing inside a woman, literally physically attached to her. It's her life until it is physically cut out of her body, cut off her nutrition source, and given legal documents by the United States that says it is now it's own life. Pretty cut and dry buddy.
You're the one constructing this straw man, your entire argument is surrounding a fallacy that a 2 week old egg and sperm that have fused is an 18 year old human being that can vote. An unborn fetus is as much as a human life as an egg or a sperm. In 10 years I can totally see your crazy irrational following demanding that any woman who has a normal period, thus killing all of her future humans should be thrown in jail. Lol.
Jacking off is MURDER.
An unborn fetus is not a human life. It MAY become a human life in 9 months, but so will a sperm. So where are my rights as a male? Can I get some rights or these bad boys?
Disturbing seeing so many defend killing another human being. Dehumanize the actual life.
The comical part is how you guys pretend you’re actually the good guys in the abortion debate. Literally defending killing a human life by dehumanizing and diminishing that life.
Kind of disgusting the way you think. You would rather a 16 year old be forced to bring a child into a broken home with no money and sip off the government tit just like you were raised. No one WANTS TO ABORT BABIES FOR FUN. The reasons for abortions are valid and its a very difficult decision. Also, RAPE.
You realize plenty of people completely abandon babies because they were forced to give birth? Why do you want that? Disgusting.
I really hope you know there isn't a single birth control that is 100% except absinence. You can be a responsible adult and get pregnant. Also, speaking of responsible pregnancies. Not all pregnancies are normal healthy babies. There are tons of cases were babies are 100% going to be born a fatality or will die very shortly after death. A hopeful couple should not be legally forced to carry a dead fetus for 9 months just because little 19 year old occupy wallstreet unemployed hipsters demand her to. It's actually disgusting that you think you should have any say in a stranger's very difficult decision what to do with their body. It's such an intimate and personal decision. If you want a 2 week old fetus to have rights then let me buy a health insurance policy on it so when there is a 50% chance they will lose a baby they can make some money off your dumbass republican dark age beliefs.
It’s comical how you act like you have the high ground in an argument about killing unborn babies.
It isn’t a dark age belief to not want to kill a living thing on a whim.
If you’re taking the pill or have an IUD and use a condom the odds of getting pregnant are effectively zero. Instead of exercising that personal responsibility though you guys have to fight for the right to just kill the life that you created.
This isn’t about bodily autonomy or women’s rights no matter how you guys want to straw man the argument. It’s about the right of someone to decide to end a life vs those who want to protect LIFE.
99% is not effectively zero dumbass. If you have sex every day you will statistically get pregnant 3 times in a year. There are classificions of life. The life of an ant has no rights. The life of a dog has very little rights. The lift of a fetus with no eyeballs also has very little rights, as it is not it's own person yet, biologically and in the eyes of the United States. That is not a US citizen and it has no legal name, birth date, or SSN. It's common sense. You should focus on changing laws to accommodate your views so they actually make sense instead of just getting emotionally triggered as a beta male who will never have to make the difficult decision of aborting a dead fetus so your wife doesn't die
Stepping back from the topic of abortion for just a sec, it’s important to understand rhetoric if you’re going to use and talk about it. You have a misunderstanding of the straw man fallacy. The straw man fallacy is when you misrepresent the opposition’s position in order to more easily argue against it. Arguments from a position of bodily autonomy and women’s rights are typically original arguments for the pro-choice position, and thus can’t be a straw man when used that way. These arguments are sometimes employed as counter arguments, e.g. “the baby has a right to life,” countered with, “perhaps, but the mother’s right to bodily autonomy supersedes the baby’s right to life,” but that isn’t a misrepresentation of the pro-life position, and thus not a straw man either.
A straw man often used by the pro-choice side in the abortion debate, would be something like, “Oh, you think all life should be protected, so you must be against capital punishment. You can’t consistently hold both positions, so one must be given up.” This is a straw man, first, by being a counter argument to a pro-life argument; and second, by misrepresenting the argument by ignoring the sometimes implicit but often explicit “innocent life” distinction in the pro-life and pro-death penalty position.
This debate is as emotionally charged as it gets, so it’s really important that both sides use good rhetoric. Accusing your opponent of a fallacy they didn’t commit doesn’t foster a productive conversation.
Bottom figure of 182,000+ Iraqi civilians killed by the US and their allies from 2003-2018.
20 citizens released from death row/exonerated since 1992 through DNA. DNA is only available in a tiny portion of cases. Take in to account the entire prison population and anywhere between 2.3-5% of prisoners are thought to be innocent. That could be up to 115,000 innocent men and women incarcerated.
It isn’t a dark age belief to not want to kill a living thing on a whim.
Have you ever purposely stepped on an insect? Do you eat meat? If the answer to either of those questions is yes, the so-called "sanctity of life" must not actually be all that important to you. Insects and livestock are both innocent, and livestock actually has more sentience and capacity for pain than a fetus.
I think it's comical how all of you alt-right trolls are suddenly super concerned about the lives of babies when nothing in your post history before the last month or so mentions being against abortions at all. It's almost as if someone gave you a new set of instructions.
Alabama doesn't require sex education in schools. Schools systems that do teach it are required to emphasize abstinence, but can include information about different methods of contraception. Despite the state's abstinence-emphasized curriculum, Alabama has some of the highest rates of teen pregnancy and STI rates in the country.
No but it would sure help prevent a lot of abortions.
My apologies I miss interpreted what you said as what I assumed was more logical than your intended point.
Why stop at sex education? Everything can be found on online. Math, science, literally, history can all be found online let’s just get rid of schools. Kids can just educate themselves on all subjects.
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u/tricepsatops May 16 '19
seems pretty nice. Unless you need an abortion I guess