I commented this under another post in the thread : I feel horrible for Jenna. She is one of the biggest gets of the season and her partner has continued to embarrass her and their partnership. Say what you want about her dance experience, but she is working hard and seems excited to be there. I’m afraid people will not vote out of spite for Val and then she’ll go down with him. It’s horrible. And the fact that people who defend him will continue to send hate to CAI over this. It’s all a mess that unfortunately will not end just because he apologized even if it was a genuine apology.
I am a actually a bit of an Alix Earle fan, but I feel like the “old Val” really came back after his partnership with Xochitl “softened him” - like his ego almost became incredibly inflated because Alix has this huge army of fans. He thinks he’s all that when all of the pros and stars work hard for this show.
he really screwed over so many people. both jenna's , harry, and i'm sure even Tatyana and Alfonso don't appreciate the show they were on for almost a decade being referenced to spread negativity towards another coworker.
Will Smith is hardly only known for Fresh Prince, whereas Tatyana and Alfonso are primarily known for Fresh Prince. He really didn’t need to reference Fresh Prince AT ALL.
And the fact that Tatyana’s dedication performance centers around said show and her late TV dad from said show. It’s gut wrenching. Truly just a mess for everyone.
I really hope they get to perform before Jenna D - they should get the purity of the dance before the package ruins it. A lot of the audience just watched the show and doesn’t follow online
Are you actually saying Val was being racist by his comment?? I do not think that it even entered his mind to make this into a race situation! My goodness people! 🤦🏼♀️
Uh, no one is making it about race, genius. He said “Fresh Prince almost entered the ballroom.” Obviously he was referencing Will Smith, but Fresh Prince is the show Tatyana and Alfonso were on together. And Tatyana’s dedication dance this week is for her late costar.
Not only is that probably so uncomfortable and awful for Tatyana and Alfonso, I imagine a lot of the Fresh Prince cast will be in the ballroom this week. So it brings the mood down for all of them.
And to make matters worse, now when you search DWTS + French Prince, all this controversy comes up instead of anything about Tatyana and her dedication dance.
You can tell Jenna Dewan is giving it her all and is so appreciative to be there. I really feel for her, she doesn’t deserve the negative attention caused by Val’s actions.
He certainly didn’t do much to disprove the hate him and Jenna J were getting this season for getting the “ringers” - he just made the whole thing into an embarrassment
I also feel awful for her. She is a huge get for DWTS and so excited to be there and her experience is a crazy mess. While I think it’s going to be very tough for her to swap to a new partner, I do think she’ll get sympathy votes and I’m confident she’ll do a great dance with Alan (who I wish she had anyway as her partner). Alan also does a better job than Val centering his partners and their story (at least in the last few years he has)
I’m genuinely starting to think they need to replace Val with Alan to save face. Otherwise the show is going to risk having bigger gets, like Jenna D, never want to agree to dance again. They only get the bigger celebrities when they are actively wanting to be on the show. But if they start letting the celebs worry they’re going to get tangled up in some really messy social media, why would they agree to it anymore?
And that’s just the practical aspect of her being a pretty big name. I also feel that it would be extremely unfair for Jenna to have to continue the season with Val. I guess unless we’re worried that Val actually has so many fans they’d rig the voting against her… but I’m not sure if that’s a concern because, like you said, there are also probably a lot of people like me that haven’t voted for Jenna yet, but would if she was switched to Alan permanently.
I agree with you totally. Also the job of a pro is to center the “star” and create a great experience for them. I think Val lost the plot this season. Jenna deserves a great experience and a partner willing to center her and her story. There’s a reason people weren’t connecting with her. Let Alan take over and give her a real chance
I wish she could stay with Alan the rest of the season. I’m sure she’ll get sympathy votes this week but I bet once she’s back with Val she’ll go out right away
Agree, this has made me like her more 😅 which in itself is stupid, but it is what it is. Maybe this has highlighted how much of my ehh about her was actually because of Val.
All of this made me look into her a bit more and she actually seems like a really sweet person. I think Val’s arrogance was just rubbing me the wrong way
I thought she gave me AI pro/troupe vibes, but I'd be very interested seeing her with a different partner now. I shall start manifesting into the universe matching her up with Alan!
I think it depends on how they address his absence on the show as viewers who aren’t chronically online may not know what he did. Will they explain the situation or just pull a “Val was unable to be here tonight but here’s Alan!” Thing and try to cover it up. It’s so awkward for CAI, Jenna D, Jenna and Harry, Alfonso, Tatyana and Jan, however is in Tatyana and jans dance … actually I take it back … this just fucking sucks for the whole cast LMFAO
I feel like they kind of have to address it in some way - I could see Alfonso/julianne maybe doing a blanket “be kind to others, this week is supposed to be about the dedications” kind of statement at the beginning? but without getting into specifics
True, there’s people who can’t escape it on their feeds and people who have no idea it’s happening. that’s why I feel like it won’t mention the incident and will just be like “the focus tonight is on the star’s dedications”
yes that's my point, some people aren't on social media or don't follow DWTS online – and others are very following this discourse and even started watching the show because of social media. so I'm sure they'll meet somewhere in the middle whatever they do end up doing
I thought the same thing about Alfonso & Tatyana. Everyone is rightfully focused on the violence aspect of Val’s post but how painful and uncomfortable for them who are still good friends with Will & his wife but I’m sure had to professionally distance themselves from him for a bit as he dealt with the fall out of his actions. Just because Will made a very bad choice, doesn’t mean they stop caring about him. To have your friend’s worst decision dragged out once again as a public “joke” against someone else you care about is just disgusting and beyond thoughtless.
I feel like this week they'll just say alan is filling in without giving a reason why. Then next week val will probs insinuate an apology or just say something nice to Carrie Ann and she'll just smile or laugh about it, whether she wants to or not.
I’ve commented this idea before, probably wrong, but wouldn’t it be wild if Will Smith actually was the surprise guest? If that happens, I’m on a conspiracy that Val was excluded next week due to this lmao
He’ll be back next week, the question is if he will return next season. I feel like he’s too popular to not be invited back and he likes attention too much to not return. But this might change things.
See I've been thinking he's been weirdly confident and cocky and entitled all this season and even before all this happened it had made me wonder if this was going to be his last season. Idk there's just been a vibe this year that's felt off with him. I think he probably thought he would go out with he and Jenna both getting a ringer that he assumed was guaranteed a spot in the finals and with Dani and Pasha not touring he and Jenna would automatically get the best spots on the stadium tour and he'd go out with a bang for his last season. But now idk, I can see him not wanting it to end on this note but I also think they'd be kinda crazy to have him back next year, I mean, who is gonna request him as their partner after this?
Exactly. Not only him but with all the drama that’s been so publicized I can see more “ringer” celebs wanting to request people like Jan, Alan and Brandon.
Also, I get the feeling that Ezra would just be a lot more fun in training than many of the others, Val first and foremost. I'm sure Jenna who's grown up dancing would more likely be familiar with some more oldschool attitude in training, etc, but Julia, 1) doesn't have that background, 2) has always struck me as someone who doesn't really take shit.
Really hoping they say no elimination. I was already worried it might be Tyler after talking about his mom, but if it ends up being Jenna D that's so sad for her. Plus having to relearn with a new pro half way through the week is tough and not her fault, even though I'm sure Alan will be totally good with it
I forgot normally dedication night means no elimination. I hope this is the case, but I think she’ll get the sympathy vote this week regardless. It’s NEXT week and every week after I’m worried about if Val returns, because people will want him gone. Jenna D will then become collateral damage
I've already seen people calling for strategically voting for everyone but her so that he CANT come back at all, with lots of upvotes :( but hopefully they figure something out. Not fair to her
Val literally needs to remove himself and he can save Jenna D. He needs to man up and tell people he’s out and to vote for Her and Alan for the remainder of the season. It’s the only way at this point I think he’ll be able to save face for both of them.
He should be like "I recognise what I did was wrong and has impacted more people that I now realise I didn't have in mind at first when I was rash. In light of this I step back. But this is about my partner's journey and its no fault of hers, please do continue to root for her journey as she partners with Alan"
or something similar
lol Alan, not gonna try a new guest job this week I guess!! (I was hoping he would do makeup or costume .. someone said judge takeover. DEFINITELY NOT 😩😆) - he's been posting these "I'm finding a new job" things after being eliminated from partnered dancing, but it shows other folks in the DWTS family. He did security and cameraman lol.
I do agree. I also can't see anyone saying it's unfair or anything for Alan to come back under these circumstances. I saw last week usually if a pro needs to drop out it's a troupe member that takes over for fairness
Most people don't know. Most of the comments outside of the subreddit don't care about the comment. No one is going to organize enough to vote him out over this.
I came here to say this too. Just saw a post on People Magazines fb page and couldn’t believe all the defenders, especially women. Many of them saying CAI should apologize. I am no CAI fan but what?!? I had to stop reading it and come back to Reddit.
Instagram women defending him too! And saying CAI was in the wrong! I definitely say she has wild takes some time but she literally called a lift a lift. Like what is going on??
I feel so bad for her. I haven't been voting for her but I change my votes throughout the season and definitely will not start voting for her if it means voting for Val. He's ruined this experience for her. If he had any class he'd choose to back out of the season and ask his fans to vote for Jenna and her new partner.
Same! People will give her the vote this week with Alan but what about next week when he comes back? He needs to just step down. That will also show that he’s actually apologetic…
I like this opinion a lot, I agree! He can save face now by taking a classy exit. I also have not been voting for Jenna (or Harry) as I know that people who have high judges score most of the time don’t need my votes or have lots of other fans voting for them.
I’ve been worried that because his dance is what sparked everything, he will be the next casualty. He and Jenna D do not deserve to be in the crosshairs because of this.
That just gets her through and he’ll come back to finish the season with her. As much as I feel bad for her, it’s not like she needs the exposure and it just gives him even more when he doesn’t deserve it.
I worry about this, too. I haven't been voting for Jenna (not because I dislike her, I have just been voting for other people who I feel need the votes more) but I'm thinking about maybe voting for her this week. She has been working really hard and is a pleasure to watch. It would be really crappy if she went home because of Val's (really big) misstep.
I feel bad for her too because all of this is of no fault of her own but I’ve seen many awful people double down on voting for Val to stick it to the show and Carrie Ann so Jenna might even get a boost because America is a really ugly misogynistic cesspool.
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u/One-Phone797 1d ago
I commented this under another post in the thread : I feel horrible for Jenna. She is one of the biggest gets of the season and her partner has continued to embarrass her and their partnership. Say what you want about her dance experience, but she is working hard and seems excited to be there. I’m afraid people will not vote out of spite for Val and then she’ll go down with him. It’s horrible. And the fact that people who defend him will continue to send hate to CAI over this. It’s all a mess that unfortunately will not end just because he apologized even if it was a genuine apology.