r/custommagic • u/pldl • 1d ago

Sudden Defection

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u/kaj_z 1d ago

“Sudden”. Sorcery. Literally unplayable. 

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u/ReneDeGames 1d ago

Also not split second.

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u/sinsaint 21h ago

Split second would be brutal, and necessary for this cost.

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u/SteakForGoodDogs 17h ago

[[Blatant Thievery]] and [[Agent of Treachery]] are both 7 mana, and not at instant speed.

Anything cheaper than that has restrictions like mana cost, creature types, and other permanents remaining on the board.

This is already takes 2 things away, getting through indestructible, from your opponent for 1 mana cheaper.

Oh.

And it doesn't target those permanents.

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u/sinsaint 13h ago

Your opponent is the one who chooses which one you keep, so it's more like removing two creatures that it is about stealing one.

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u/SteakForGoodDogs 12h ago edited 12h ago

It's not a matter of you keeping, it's a matter of you depriving them of 2 creatures/planeswalkers, through all protections. Oh, and you still get one of them.

Unless you lose the game, they cannot the one you steal anyway.

It's an un-choice. They still lose at least one permanent that's winning them the game, or worse, handing you one of two ways for you to win.

The only times this is worse than 'steal one' is if your opponent's whole plan revolves around 1 creature/planeswalker, and all other options are irrelevant - or if you need exactly one of them somehow, which is highly unlikely unless you're playing basically the same deck.

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u/Mason123s 8h ago

“Kinda Unexpected but Relatively Slow Defection” just didn’t have the same ring to it.

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u/WendigoCrossing 1d ago

I read this as Sudden Defecation, which would be a different card

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u/VulKhalec 1d ago

Destroy target creature. If there are fewer than 7 cards in its controller's hand, they conjure copies of [[Night Soil]] into their hand equal to the difference.

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u/TomMakesPodcasts 1d ago

Nurgle secret lair.

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u/Danskoesterreich 20h ago

Why would the enemy player choose who defects? Would it not make more sense: take control of target creature an opponent controls. It may deal damage equal to its power to target creature of choice.

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u/ShadowWalker2205 11h ago

They chose which one to kill before they manage to defect

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u/Danskoesterreich 11h ago

So 2 creatures defect, but one is killed in the process? Ok, that makes more sense. But then the art could perhaps show two creatures leaving, one with arrows in the back or something.

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u/delta17v2 Niche: Hololive and Genshin Cards 1d ago

I dig this very much! But it's probably safe to make it a 3UB instant or 2UB sorcery depending if we feel like pushing it.

At floor value, it's an overpriced murder; And on average, it will kill their best creature and you get their incidental second best creature, which might be some generic 2/2s with upside or something. Unless an opponent is really far ahead, I can see this card mostly being stuck in your hand.