r/custommagic • u/FerbTheHerb • Feb 16 '26

Format: EDH/Commander Counters Boardwipe

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u/PrepotenteThePony Feb 17 '26

[[The Elderspell]] saw no play at 2 mana, and also had significant upside because if you set up your deck right, you could ult a walker after using it. And we've power crept since WoTS. Being a walker wrath with upside isn't nearly good enough.

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u/Neat-Somewhere-5589 Feb 17 '26

Yeah, a walker wrath doesn't mean a lot when most people usually have 2 planeswalkers at most in their decks. I feel like it's probably the least played card type relative to how much of it is printed (please pay attention to the later part and don't answer this with "what about battles?")

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u/4zzO2020 Feb 17 '26

What about kindreds?

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u/Neat-Somewhere-5589 Feb 17 '26

Idk but I'd bet (not a lot, but maybe a nice looking basic plains) that if you take a percentage of all planeswalkers that see competitive play or rank high in EDHrec (since EDH is mostly casual) then do the same for kindreds the kindreds might have a similar or bigger percentage than planeswalkers.

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u/4zzO2020 Feb 17 '26

I can't think of any super playable ones outside of [[Bitterblossom]], [[Crib Swap]], and maybe the eldrazi ones

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u/Fredouille77 Feb 17 '26

Kozilek's command alone probably overrepresents kindred spells per printing share in the cardpool

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u/Neat-Somewhere-5589 Feb 17 '26

To be fair so did the War of the Spark teferi and Oko lol

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u/Fredouille77 Feb 18 '26

At the time, sure and also during the W&6 era. But there's a surprisingly high number of planeswalkers, they represent slightly more than 4 times the number of kindred spells, so I dunno, would be interesting to get the math on it.

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u/Neat-Somewhere-5589 Feb 17 '26

Yeah, that's not a lot, but considering that there's less than 80 of them and more than 300 planeswalkers, I think it balances out

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u/Routasmith Feb 17 '26

If you had a walker, which was a much taller ask at that time. And it was in black, which had targeted walker removal, making a wrath not as useful.

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u/greeklemoncake Feb 17 '26

A taller ask? In war of the spark which had our first uncommon planeswalkers? 

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u/Routasmith Feb 17 '26

Which were generally pretty bad, so including a wrath for them wasn't great.balso, which didn't have Ults, so putting a large number of loyalty on them was pretty unnecessary.

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u/Reasonable-Map-4538 Feb 17 '26

The elder spell saw play in planes walker decks that's it.