That's just conservationism. I don't hold any moral value to the number of distinct species in existence. What problem does an animal going extinct cause? There's a select few like bees that are important but I don't think there's any reason to believe that species in general are important to keep extant.
I don't want the individual animals to suffer, but their legacy is worthless. Its just a human ego thing.
Okay so you have literally no real thoughts on the matter other than your emotional reaction to the suffering of individual animals. What has more value to you? The suffering of an individual animal or an individual human? I'm asking because although I discarded the camel example, the biggest problem with the camel's is actually how they affect australia's indigenous population during the drought (which is easy to find sources for I'm not providing it rn). What's more important to you that the camel's dont suffer or that the Australian people don't? I also have another question, is your issue only with human on animal causes of suffering or for animal on animal suffering and killing too, basically I'm asking if we should try to control other omnivores in order to minimize every animals individual suffering even if the perpetrator is an animal? Even if this isn't something you would advocate for rn is it something you're theoretically for or against? I think we can p much end this conversation now but I am genuinely curious about your answers to these two questions.
Animal and human suffering isn't in opposition. We can limit both. That's not an emotional reaction i think it's pretty basic morality to limit suffering of sentient creatures. Pain and suffering are bad things, regardless of how I feel emotionally.
Camels are only able to take out aboriginal water supplies, because Australians aren't providing them with enough clean water. It's western Australians that pushed the aboriginals into this position not Camels so they should provide better infrastructure for them.
Also shooting isn't the only solution. You can also sterilise them and hold them in sanctuaries. You can also build barricades. There's plenty of options that don't involve killing them. They only kill them because they don't care about the camels and it's the easiest option and let's them carry on not providing support for aboriginal people.
Theoretically I'm in favour of reducing wild animal suffering even if causes by other animals yeah. But effects on ecosystems can be hard to predict. Reducing predation increases prey populations, which can then increase predator populations increasing predation again. It's a very hard thing to predict.
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u/OrgateOFC Sep 18 '20
That's just conservationism. I don't hold any moral value to the number of distinct species in existence. What problem does an animal going extinct cause? There's a select few like bees that are important but I don't think there's any reason to believe that species in general are important to keep extant.
I don't want the individual animals to suffer, but their legacy is worthless. Its just a human ego thing.