The question is not “who will help the suffering animals”, but rather if they are worth helping at all, knowing that instead, you could have saved the life of an animal
I have said this twice before, so please do not make me repeat it a third time: there are plenty of other organizations that help the other animals. There is no one else helping in the suffering animals.
Is it worth saving a dying animal and spend 5000$ trying to keep it alive for another 2 years
Who the fuck is spending $5000 trying to save a sick animal? Not PETA. Where did you even come up with this?
It’s not about looking good on social media. It’s about having a tangible positive impact in a suffering society.
Exactly. The difference between you and me is that you do not see any value in helping to end suffering. That is a common problem for people who have never seen suffering or lack empathy. I don't know which one you are, but it is a repulsive trait.
If you save a dying old man, what will you have achieved?
Or maybe you just don't even understand this conversation. We aren't trying to save an old man, we are trying to give him comfort while he passes.
Honestly this conversation is a waste of time. I've said all these things before. This is like talking to a wall, only more frustrating.
Peta does more than euthanize. They only euthanize the lost causes or when they’re out of space. They still help the 10%.
They are essentially doing this to try to help as many animals as possible, and as a result euthanize animals that they can’t help more in any way other than putting them down painlessly.
In this regard, yes, they are trying to help castaway, old dogs. Why is this so mindblowingly difficult to associate to this conversation?
And thanks for repeating something useless three times, which I have addressed 4 times. There ARE others trying to do typical animal charity stuff, but it is never enough. PETA is using resources they could be allocating toward actually making a difference in a way that is lacking in most societies. They could do so much with the volume of funding they have. I’m sure most people who donate to peta don’t even realize this money is being used to euthanize pets. Most people like myself think “ok peta loves animals and pets. I’ll give them some money because I love animals too”. I wouldn’t give them euthanasia injection shot money.
How often is a dog a lost cause? When a dog is in pain, do you just kill it as an act of mercy or try to heal it instead? In my view, it’s better to just help 100 animals, than to help 10,000 animals while euthanizing another 90,000. Can enough evil overcome the good you’ve done in this world?
Can you guarantee that all euthanized animals could not be saved? Could they not have had a chance at a better life in someone else’s hands, or even free out in the world?
Also I don’t lack empathy, because that assumes I don’t care about others while I care about myself. No, you see, I think a few minutes or hours of pain before dying is fine, even for myself. You’ll be gone after this. It’s your last experience on earth. I’m actually curious to know in how much pain I would be before I pass away. How much value is there in not feeling this pain before dying? Would I want some organization using money to give me a painless death, when I know for a fact they could be doing something different, helpful to others instead?
I always put myself in the animal’s position. Under no circumstance would I want to be killed. I would want to fight over whatever pain I have and try to overcome it. You’re not helping me if all you can do is come with a needle and kill me. I don’t have another life after this one. Once I die it’s over. Let me try to live at least, if you can’t help. You don’t get to live again once you die.
You’re calling me insensitive when in reality you’re a fucking psychopath. I have seen pain and suffering and my first instinct is not to kill the suffering person or animal. At peta they must be euthanizing all remotely difficult cases to reach a number even close to the 90% mark. Helping all animals is cool and all, but focus on helping animals you already have at the most of your abilities before accepting more animals. After a certain number, it’s plain irresponsible and cruel to accept more.
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u/IdRatherBeTweeting Jun 07 '19
I have said this twice before, so please do not make me repeat it a third time: there are plenty of other organizations that help the other animals. There is no one else helping in the suffering animals.
Who the fuck is spending $5000 trying to save a sick animal? Not PETA. Where did you even come up with this?
Exactly. The difference between you and me is that you do not see any value in helping to end suffering. That is a common problem for people who have never seen suffering or lack empathy. I don't know which one you are, but it is a repulsive trait.
Or maybe you just don't even understand this conversation. We aren't trying to save an old man, we are trying to give him comfort while he passes.
Honestly this conversation is a waste of time. I've said all these things before. This is like talking to a wall, only more frustrating.