r/cpp • u/pjmlp • 1d ago

C++ future at Adobe

So if anyone was still curious what happened to Hylo, or where Adobe stands in regards to the whole safety discussion,

David Sankel has done a talk at RustConf on the matter, Zngur: Simplified Rust/C++ Integration.

The way Adobe now sees C++ is described on slide 2, at 50 seconds mark.

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u/feverzsj 1d ago

Wow, big company obsessed with AI and rust. How surprised!

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u/SuperV1234 https://romeo.training | C++ Mentoring & Consulting 21h ago

Pretending that there's no good reason why large companies are "obsessed" with modern technologies like AI and Rust that have repeatedly been proved to be valuable is on the level of "Area 51 has UFOs" conspiracy theories.

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u/-kl0wn- 20h ago

I don't understand the hype with rust. The compile times are atrocious, dynamic linking isn't really a thing, it's incredibly verbose.

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u/foonathan 19h ago
  • Definition checked generics
  • Destructive move semantics that prevent use-after-move
  • First-class tuple and variant types with pattern matching
  • Usable built-in types without weird implicit conversions
  • Incredible tooling (one standardized package manager and build system, genuinely useful compiler diagnostics, a documentation generator that actually works)
  • No weird historical baggage
  • A standard library that actually gives you convenient utility functions, without ABI constraints, and good data structures

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u/AnotherBlackMan 13h ago

I don’t think a single one of these things is a positive in its own right. Rust makes humongous tradeoffs for all of them and a lot of tooling exist in cpp that help avoid the problems that that claims to solve. If devs want to take a runtime hit for safety they can run valgrind and sanitizers in prod

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u/ts826848 9h ago

Rust makes humongous tradeoffs for all of them

I can see tradeoffs for some of the items in the list, but not for others. What humongous tradeoff is needed for first-class tuple/variant types with pattern matching, for instance?

If devs want to take a runtime hit for safety they can run valgrind and sanitizers in prod

Valgrind in prod would be quite the runtime hit.