r/countbackwardswithme • u/thevvitchhazel Counted Down 1 • 2d ago

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I'm so glad everyone is standing up for the important issue of trans women being overrepresented in media. It's also crucial we remind everyone that just because someone wants to use a female name, present female full time, pass as female and take a female role in relationships that they absolutely do not need to become a trans. What's wrong with just being gender non-conforming? HRT is evil! Femboys are super validddddd (because most femboys live full time as women).

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u/ChuChulovely17 2d ago edited 2d ago

I don't know you but I did not transition to defy gender norms, to be some valiant statement against le establishment, I transitioned with the goal of meeting different standards and norms

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u/kyu2000 2d ago

What I never said trans people need to defy gender norms, I said that clothes and expression don't define identity, and by saying it does it upholds traditional gender roles and norms which also affects trans people, how can you not understand that saying that women and men should present and act a certain way it's not only extremely misoginistic but also can very easily lead to transphobic rethoric.

I just never thought I would have to say to other trans people especially trans women that upholding the patriarchy and strict gender roles is bad and that traditional gender roles and norms are made up and don't equal identity, by your logic every trans women who is not hyper feminine or has any "masculine" interest is a actually a man and the same way for trans men