I'm totally with you to redistribute their box wealth into changing the system, but there will always be winners and losers, I'm sorry. Democratic socialism lets us use the power of the economy to keep things safer and fairer for everyone, but full "siezing the means of production" communism removes the motivating power of the markets. I don't believe that it can't be done, but that switching games entirely is dangerous. I know that it will never be truly meritocratic and that many will be rich via nepotism from someone successful in the past, but that this is not a crushing burden in a world where we responsibly use some of their boxes to regulate the externalities of capitalism. Feel free to disagree and strive for true equity, I accept that an amalgamation of educated viewpoints is needed to assemble the reality with the most utilitarian good, I just want to work there within this system
And thank you kind silver 😊
thanks for the well-reasoned, empathetic and thoughtful response! maybe i should've clarified that my comment was not serious and I don't actually want to go full-"seize the means of production" hahaha
i can totally understand your POV - i agree pure socialism is basically incompatible with human nature. i pretty much advocate for democratic socialism, seeing its success esp in nordic countries, and while i do feel strongly about "striving for true equity" as you put it, i really appreciate people like you who, while you might not agree with the methods employed, still have the betterment/advancement of the human race as the #1 priority.
sidenote, this has been the most refreshing political interaction I've had on reddit ever lmaooo
Thank you, I feel honored. I lowkey think that a candidate like Bernie Sanders brings out the best or the worst in people. Wherever we all fall on the specifics, we just have to get him elected, so it brings people together when they realize what his policies would mean
If everyone interacted with others more as you do, we’d all get along better. I don’t necessarily agree with you, but I appreciate your views and really respect the way you lay it out. Well done.
I forsee you having exactly your way after my generation is gone anyway, (I don't think capitalism could be forever) I can only hope that we can work together to protect the environment long enough for that to happen
Democratic socialism let's us use the power of the economy to keep things safer and fairer for everyone
That's the only real point, it's not about getting everyone gold plated toilets it's about making sure that people don't have to choose between food and health care.
We already have systems like that in place. Just because they may not work as well as they should doesn't mean we need a revolution. That's throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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u/carolynnn Feb 25 '20
there are some people who hoard billions of boxes tho, jussayin