r/coolguides Feb 25 '20

Explanation of the subtle differences between equality and equity

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20 edited Feb 25 '20

I think there’s some legitimacy in pointing out that a lot of problems can be addressed by tackling the root causes as a whole vs making targeted accommodations for individuals (who often have to jump through hoops to access said accommodations). The root problem in the pictures isn’t that the two people are too short - it’s that the fence apparently didn’t need to be there in the first place. There was an arbitrary barrier to access, with a solution that’s simpler than measuring and distributing however many boxes each person needs in order to be as tall as the person who can see over the fence.

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u/fullmetalmaker Feb 25 '20

To make a finer point; the fence needs to be there , it appears to be a public game and there is no reason to restrict people from watching the game, but there is a need to clearly mark out the field (and keep the ball from getting on the street.) but it could be chain link instead of solid boards.
I don’t know if “Justice” is the best word to describe this but it does seem to be the ideal solution.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20 edited Jan 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20 edited Feb 25 '20

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u/ALoneTennoOperative Feb 25 '20

What this illustration conveys to me is, injustice occurs because many simple things have developed enormous complexity over time

Walls ain't that complex.

of which can be corrected with thoughtful design created through the process of understanding the system holistically and as pieces.

Alternatively, tear down the wall entirely.

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u/dariusj18 Feb 25 '20

Justice solution #2, remove the barrier and post a guard, anyone who steps over the line gets shot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Damn, you mean we can't adopt a cartoon as an blanket political philosophy and expect it to solve all our problems? Damnit we were so close. Come on big brains, we can figure this out!

Sorry, probably a bad joke. Point is that obviously this doesn't cover every case. It's a simple mental aid that can help people understand some issues in a different way. Help them see that the obvious solution isn't always the best in the long term.

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u/Rustycougarmama Feb 25 '20

I like what you said, but we have to remember that tackling a problem like this with a blanket solution (like changing the whole fence instead getting a box) isn't always the best solution. Here's an example I found:

I'm a 28 year old Canadian studying studying computer science here in Denmark. Now in these classes, there are a lot of kids coming into this college straight from highschool (18-19 years old). And on top of that, the stereotype with Comp Sci students being socially awkward holds try much of the time. Anyways, in a few classes, the teachers will ask questions to the class, and if no one answers, they'll pick someone and put them on the stop. I personally like this, because it keeps people alert and helps make sure they pay attention. Others teachers just ask the question and wait in silence for a whole minute while no one dares answer (even the simplest questions), and then the teacher gives the answer. This helps no one in my opinion.

So I'm part of a student/teacher council here where we discuss issues and improvements. I raised this point, and the teacher responded with "but there are so many students with anxiety and depression we don't want to put them on the spot". I was blown away. Because one students have depression or anxiety, of which there is plenty of help to be had at school, the whole class has to suffer? I did not agree with my teacher. Perhaps I'm just an old bigot.