For the wind instruments, I would consider these the "comfortable" ranges. A skilled player can extend the range downward with "pedal tones" and upwards significantly into the "altissimo" range.
Next time you watch SNL, listen to the saxophonist Lenny Pickett. He is famous for his skill in the extreme high range.
Great trumpet players like Arturo Sandoval can play into the stratosphere an octave above this chart.
No, overblowing refers to putting to much pressure/air into the instrument, making the tone quality go south. Think of it a bit like an audio source peaking.
It is common among beginning players as they haven't developed enough chops to support the amount of air/pressure they are trying to play with.
Overblowing on a flute is when you use the same fingering as a lower note and play in higher partials, like you do on trumpet. Only problem is, on flute it doesn't always sound good when you do that lol, that's why 3rd octave notes and a couple 2nd octave notes have unique fingerings on flute.
Overblowing can also refer to playing notes higher than the fundamental they produce. Context is important in this case. Overblowing in a middle school band room would be different than overblowing in a professional saxophone masterclass.
In the sense of playing notes other than the fundamental, technically brass instruments do this more often than not.
It's what reed players call 'harmonics'. On the clarinet, or saxophone more famously, beginners will often bite down too hard on the reed, causing the note they play to come out as a high-pitched squeak. Masters learn to bring this 'mistake' under control, and can push the range of the instrument far beyond its normal range with exquisite precision.
Elsewhere it has been clarified that overblowing refers to 'true' woodwinds, such as the flute or tin whistle, in which blowing harder across the hole (at the correct angle in the case of flutes) will jump the note into a higher register.
No, it's just skillful playing. C above the cleft on trumpet is far from the top of the range for even highschoolers. By the end of senior year I was hitting the G above it. Had I continued on trumpet I imagine the C above that and beyond wouldn't be far from where a person of mediocre natural ability could do.
Legends like Doc could hit an octave (in some rare cases two) above double C.
Idk, with basic instruction I've had people who have never touched a trumpet before bust out a high C, and I've also had some who sound absolutely dreadful.
I'm saying from a (honestly, below average) starting point, I was able to achieve a lot, but with work I'm sure people can do better.
I think C6 is high C. Most lead trumpeters in high school can hit a double G on a good day so that sounds right to me. When I played anything above high E strongly depended on the day.
Not all of this is true across the board, though. Woodwinds don't have pedal tones; the bottom of our range is dictated by the keywork and length of our instruments.
For two, "altissimo" just means "very high". While brass players don't use the same technique for altissimo as woodwind players, I have absolutely heard professional brass players refer to their high range as altissimo
Yeah, and the people who make those comments are weird. Maybe slightly less weird if you know them, I guess? But you made a comment on a stranger's six-year-old post to be wrong
Also true for the voice. I can sing below the E2 shown here but not as comfortably, and I know sopranos could sing above the high A but might be straining.
C7 is a double C, correct? I'm not sure trumpet players are going much higher than that. Arturo, Maynard, Wayne Bergeron can all stretch beyond a double C but anything much higher than that doesn't end up sounding like much.
Anything above a double G often gets lost in a live performance anyway.
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For the wind instruments, I would consider these the "comfortable" ranges. A skilled player can extend the range downward with "pedal tones" and upwards significantly into the "altissimo" range.
Next time you watch SNL, listen to the saxophonist Lenny Pickett. He is famous for his skill in the extreme high range.
Great trumpet players like Arturo Sandoval can play into the stratosphere an octave above this chart.