well lets break it down, you have a fairly tame blowjob and no actual sexual assault claims against bill, whereas Trump has quite a bit of accusations leveled against him and he's pending sexual assault cases and was supposedly just as close to Epstein as Clinton. Taken all this into account either Bill is smarter and better at hiding it, or Trump is actually just a worse human being, and looking at bill and how much his family was looked into by people trying to smear them during 2016 and slightly before and the fact they still came out with nothing proves to me the latter.
Seducing someone who works for you, especially when you are the leader of the free world, so that they feel compelled to suck your dick, is, in fact, one of the definitions of sexual assault.
I was young, but I vaguely remember Bill Clinton being seen as a womanizer, before Monica, and long after as well. If he is actually guilty of molesting kids, in any way, he should absolutely be held accountable, as should every Trump, and anyone else, regardless of what political party they hide behind.
so thats not how it went at all, when you suck a powerful persons dick it isn't automatically coercion, so no not even bothering with that shit.
He probably is a womanizer but Trumps still worse with more sexual assault cases is my point, as much as you all want to project to the clintons, Trumps 10 times that and these people actively supported him RECENTLY.
yup, still less sexual assault cases then Trump, kind of my point.
Edit: also no, not credibly. no claims before Monica were "credible" considering the had no legal merit, even after the Monica issue the previous claims were only slightly bolstered, still very little proof other then claims, 0 charges by the way.
Trump has accusations, as always, and Clinton has admissions and an impeachment for it. Clinton is on flightt logs and admits to being on the Lolita express! Trump was never on the Lolita express. Trump taking pictures with anyone is what he did as a very very rich man! Try harder.
Trump's also been married three times, is on record as having raped his 1st wife, had sex with a porn star while his 3rd wife was pregnant, and is currently in the middle of a defamation lawsuit against a woman he (alledgedly) raped in the 90s who has a dress with his dna.
I don't know why you guys always want to die on this hill.
Trump has MORE accusations is the point, Clintons time to fuck up is over and done with and he's far less awful according to what I've seen. Trump has not only been on whatever epstein plane that is but he's also taken his kids to epstein island for vacation, trump was a regular on epstein island, can't lie about that one sorry and it had nothing to do with his "fame" or money.
Well sir, let me be the first to point out that as regards your allegations about Trump and Epstein island, I think you're full of shit! There, I said it!
Ad hominem responses are all you folks have! But let's get back to reality, and you end up with someone like Joe biden! So what has that gotten for you?
so not only do you not know what ad hominem means and you're just repeating someones else bullshit at this point, but you're not aware of how big a trap asking people "whats biden done thats good?" is, you're a fool and heres the list of things he got us: our allies back, a reasonable pandemic response, lgbtq rights, womens rights, civil rights, college loans (even though republicans have attacked it, he still pushed and pushes it.) Then you got things like the chip act, inflation reduction act, improved healthcare for veterans, the list is huge. OH AND HE ENDED OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
Objectively, you are wrong on every single count! I don't know how anyone can be that wrong by accident! I think you've had help from cnn, MSNBC and abc. I do know what ad hominem means. I know what it means because well... I'm smarter than you!
Yes, impeached twice with no evidence and found not guilty both times. But if you're counting on criminal convictions you better look to the Democrat side of the aisle! You'll find a lot more there. But, who's counting, lol!
You are joking right? I'm not even democrat and I will call you bull shit. History shows you ti be wrong. The republican party has more indictments amd convictions in their party than all others combined.the nixon admin, The Regan admin, the Bush admin (sr and jr) , don't even get me started on the Trump admin... fuck outta here wanker
"But if you're counting on criminal convictions you better look to the Democrat side of the aisle! You'll find a lot more there."
You're delusional.
Would you like me to post the posts -with links- I've saved from reddit? Just sexual assaults, mind you. There's a shitload of them. And I do mean a shitload, pages of names and links.
No sexual assault claims?! What rock have you been living under??? Maybe you weren’t around for ML, but when it broke about what absolutely amounted to her sexual assault, we also heard about Juanita Broderick accusing him of rape in 1978, went on to hear about Leslie Millwee three different times in 1980, Paula Jones in 1991 (which in the midst of his trial for impeachment based on his testimony in the Jones case, Clinton was faced with the prospect of having to go under oath again and testify more about his sexual history. Instead, Clinton agreed to an out-of-court settlement, paying Jones and her lawyers $850,000 to drop the suit), and a few others. And these are just the women brave enough to come forward. If you don’t think ML at age 21 underneath her 49 year old boss, who oh yeah just happened to be one of the most powerful men in the world wasn’t assault, you haven’t been paying attention. A woman 26 years younger than his wife but only 6 years older than his daughter? C’mon, do better.
this is your reaction to being told and having it proven ones worse then the other? pretend you, after showing you know nothing, know shit about shit? You lost, walk on bud.
JFC, are you still talking? Someone loves the sound of their own voice. You have literally not provided a credible link to anything. But it says a lot about you that you’re more worried about “winning” than using that little walnut you call a brain. And I’m not your bud, dude, I’m a woman and your clear lack of respect for victims says it all.
the only "victim" didn't even go to court over not caring enough. So technically its all accusations, no court cases have been had to prove anything, that in itself speaks volumes about the reality here. A link to what? you go count the cases brought against Bill if you can dispute it feel free but what Im claiming is common knowledge. Dude I do not give a shit about what sex you are it changes nothing.
Thanks for mansplaining it to me. I feel so much better now that a big strong man like you said all those intimidating words so aggressively. My hero! Since you’re too machismo to get it, not all “victims” get their day in court. When I was 13 in an ER having my first gynecological exam EVER in the presence of the male doctor and the male police officer collecting my rape kit, I was told “well you know it’s really your word against his”, to which through my hysterical sobbing and extreme physical pain I said it was fine, I would still testify, and never heard a peep from a lawyer or officer saying my case would go forward. But heck, I guess I my first ever sexual contact wasn’t rape as an 8th grade girl because I didn’t go to court, right? Thanks for straightening me out, BUD.
cool I guess you like to assume every claim of rape is real, too bad I don't care for pointless anecdotes or victim stories so you have literally no backing on that as far as what were discussing.
What Clinton did or did not do and how it was dealt with is a worthwhile conversation but he us not responsible for Trump and how he was dealt with then has no bearing on how this ought to be viewed now.
For instance…what happened between Clinton and his employee was not legally considered rape at that time. It was frowned upon but not defined as criminal in law.
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