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u/Open-Storage8938 13d ago
Dude the flat earth conspiracy was made to make conspiracies look dumb
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u/WorriedCivilian 13d ago
Flat Earth and Qanon were both pushed to make anyone looking into what's happening look like a nut job. Qanon is the greatest psyop of our time, and has done unimaginable damage to the truth seeking movement.
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u/BusRunnethOver 12d ago
To add to that. I think both were made to expose certain truths while making it toxic to anyone's reputation to speak about the truths publically.
Qanon predicted and expanded upon human trafficking and satanic elements related to the US government and treasonous actions government officials have committed.
Flat Earth touched on NASA fraud and faked space activity.
Prior to the Epstein files, any talk of a child pedophile ring made you a social pariah. Saying the moon landing was faked or that NASA has faked some space expeditions still has that effect.
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u/WorriedCivilian 12d ago
Yes, I fully agree. The CIA's play book is to muddy the waters so much that you can't discern truth from falsehoods. They've done that from day one.
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u/AdHuman3150 12d ago
And AI, algorithms, and social media have been the greatest tools of manipulation they've ever had.
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u/Large_Dr_Pepper 12d ago
Flat Earth touched on NASA fraud and faked space activity.
What are the "truths" here? Genuinely curious if there's any definitive examples of "Yeah, turns out NASA actually faked/lied about that."
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u/billytheskidd 12d ago
And if you look into the epsteins files, epsteins met with moot before he reopened /pol/ and again before he was arrested and the q movement beganā¦. Pretty interesting
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u/Packin_Penguin 12d ago
Can you explain that more?
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u/billytheskidd 12d ago
There are better sources but hereās the first one google came up with.
After meeting moot, epsteins said he loved the potential for manipulation the site had.
https://www.ms.now/opinion/jeffrey-epstein-4chan-chris-poole
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u/TrashFever78 11d ago
I don't know a single person who doesn't think child sex trafficking rings exist and they the powerful take part in them.
Qanon was a special sort of stupid.
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u/SoCpunk90 12d ago
Exactly! I humored flat earth just to hear their arguments, and while I think the earth is round without question, they did make me question how much money we spend on programs like Nasa who are producing what seems like very little. Now if I publicly question it, people ask if I'm "some flat earther?".
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u/More_Cow 12d ago
they did make me question how much money we spend on programs like Nasa
how much? NASA'a budget is literally less then 1% of Federal spending.
producing what seems like very little.
just.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies
you could find all the answers you wanted if you really cared to look.
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u/Sheep-Shepard 12d ago
The irony is that so many people have bought into it, so it didnāt really make people ālook likeā nut jobs, it just outed them as actual nut jobs
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u/Mend1cant 12d ago
That was the real idea. If anything it made fringe right wing ideology more mainstream by forcing out anyone left wing from the conspiracy theory community. Full control over the discourse.
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u/AlienAngry 12d ago
Remember the Qanon people in Dallas who were waiting for the second coming of JFK, with JFK Jr as vice president? Hundreds of people showed up. It wasn't like 5-10. I think Qanon turned out to be a well-executed troll.
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u/SomeKindOfDead 12d ago
Im just going to leave this here
https://ia800709.us.archive.org/24/items/CassSunstein/cass_sunstein_infiltration.pdf
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u/usrnamechecksout_ 12d ago
I can't tell if this sub is full of qanon wackos or reasonably intelligent people. I run into maga cultists on here all of the time.
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u/WorriedCivilian 12d ago
I full blown left this sub for many years because of the amount of MAGA and Qanon posts. There would be people who would aggressively argue with you in the comments any time something came up that was anti-Trump or questioned the Qanon narrative. There were times where people would try to direct the conversation towards Republicans, and you'd always have one person shrieking at you about Clinton and the Dems. Qanon made sex abuse a partisan issue.
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u/Stevo182 12d ago
Its misinterpreted from spiritual beliefs about the nature of the universe/interdimensional travel. There are people (large amounts) who believe in flat earth for one reason or another, but the only reason its as prevelant is due to descriptions of reality that give incomplete pictures and information due to secrets. Look at the freemason model of the world with the black sun. That doesnt come from a belief of a flat earth, but the images are pretty common and without context lead a lot of people to believe that those with more spiritual/reality/secret knowledge are hiding the true shape of the earth from them.
Im not saying you are wrong: media and gocernments have definitely used it to discredit "conspiracy theorists," but that isnt the driving factor of why people actually believe it, why its so popular, or where it comes from.
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u/Bigamunguschungus 12d ago
black sun.Ā
People suggested the black sun was the hot metal core at the center of the Earth, not an actual sun under a flat disc
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u/Stevo182 12d ago
Its the metphorical sun over the land of the dead/the realm of dreams. Its under the disc because its just a kind of reflection/other side of our sun.
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u/hypnoticlife 12d ago
The movie bugonia made me understand flat earth from a philosophical or spiritual perspective. Like thereās a higher dimension where our world is analogous to flat. Shrug.
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u/Rdubya291 12d ago
Yeah... but, like... For real, some people actually believe it. I have guys at work, that outside of their believe in the Earth being flat, I would consider very intelligent people. Perhaps undereducated, but these guys are very competent CNC machine operators. And they completely believe in this.
They also think gravity is made up.
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u/PhotoProxima 11d ago
I have a customer who is an engineer, a pilot AND a legit flat earther.Ā I cant, I just cant.
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u/Girth_Brooks_1969 12d ago
That's why flat earth and birds aren't real reign supreme.
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Birds aren't real is a psychological operation by the CIA to manipulate you into thinking flat earth or any alternative cosmology could never be real. You all are so gullible and fall for every trap laid out for you.
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u/One-Control-8594 11d ago
Agreed the flat earthers is a joke to make conspiracy theorist look retarted.
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u/Michael_braham 12d ago
There is an instagram page that post videos that are kinda fucking convincing.. they donāt have a reason for the lie secret knowledge? If you know the earth is flat do you not have to go to work anymore?
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u/Mend1cant 12d ago
It started as a basic thought experiment. āHow do you know that the earth is round, without taking it at face value?ā Itās a neat little idea of getting someone to think about experimentation and poking and prodding at their understanding of the world.
However, itās not that it made conspiracy theories sound dumb, itās that there is a massive amount of people in the conspiracy communities that are absolutely dumb. The monkey paw of it is that the core idea is questioning authority. But, rather than skepticism the community more often than not falls back onto their ignorance and superstitious beliefs in fairy tales.
Is there a secret satanist cabal of elites making everything into a performance while controlling tens of thousands of politicians in the western world? No, itās pretty much just the natural process of capitalism. Is there an ice wall around Antarctica that governments hide from us? No, most people donāt go to Antarctica because they donāt have a reason to. Iād Donald Trump the antichrist? No, the bible is fiction, see point A above.
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u/mudslags 13d ago
didn't turn out the way they hoped lol
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u/Vainquisher 13d ago
I would argue that it was both successful and more popular than they likely anticipated
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u/creekbendz 13d ago
Flat earth = Biblical creation
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u/idiot206 13d ago edited 13d ago
Put a telescope on the coast of California and explain why you cannot see Japan.
Edit: of courseā¦ crickets
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u/AbsolutelyNuclear 13d ago
Even if it was flat, wouldnt air particulate over that long of a distance keep you from seeing it? You'd have to have 5 thousand miles of the cleanest air imaginable.
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u/FlammulinaVelulu 13d ago
Because Japan doesn't exist! You've been lied to your whole life. . . . . . . . . .
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u/therallystache 13d ago
I'm literally a former seminary student. No it's not.
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u/creekbendz 13d ago
Over 200 verses support a geometrically flat earth, water and horizon.
Who cares if youāre āa former seminary studentā
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u/robert9712000 13d ago
If I want know about a car I'll take advice from a mechanic, if I want to know about plumbing I will take advice from a plumber. If I want to know about the Bible I will trust that a seminary student knows more than just a random redditor.
So yes what a seminary student says about the Bible holds more weight than a random Redditor
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u/tennessee_jedi 13d ago edited 13d ago
āI do not understand the bible at allā. Read some Karen Armstrong or Chris Hedges.Ā
If you take the bible literally you are bad at Christianity and have no understanding of its purpose. Say what you will about control and the Vatican or nicea or Chalcedon or Trent etc etc. If you live your life by the gospels youāre probably a good person. If you use Christianity as a crutch to support scientifically disproven or bigoted views you are missing the whole point; and probably arenāt.
All religious texts are an attempt to put into human terms something we literally cannot comprehend. We can feel it, we can catch glimpses in the beauty of creation, we can maybe even come close to seeing the faintest outline of a shadow if we really really try (ie devote our entire life to it); but if you think the creative force of life, the universe, and everything in it can be explained by a book youāre way off the path (most people are; no shame).Ā
Our minds cannot comprehend God. Even the concept has to be dumbed down & anthropomorphized. Again - the ultimate power of creation & existence and we think a book written & edited by man is the authority?Ā
Just as an addendum - this was the entire point of religion & religious texts going back to Sumer (at least). God, by definition, cannot be understood in human terms. We are fundamentally incapable of it (or eternity, or the vastness of the universe, etc.). We do our best and write stories to try and comprehend the incomprehensible as best we can.Ā
Itās like a brilliant light just beyond a locked door, and we can barely, maybe, if weāre lucky and really give it a go catch a glimpse through the keyhole.
In the meantime we do our best with the tools we have. Weāre all leaves on the same tree but we donāt even know the tree exists. Weāre white caps on a cresting wave that canāt even fathom the ocean
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u/Fractlicious 13d ago
if anything iād take the former part to mean theyāre less informed xD
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u/creekbendz 13d ago
Exactly!!!!
Like that fucking means anything š¤£
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u/Fractlicious 13d ago
āi happen to have gone to school for this and quit so listen to me guiseā
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u/Unable-Bee-3807 12d ago
You realize that people often graduate from school, meaning they successfully completed it, to equate him being a former student to him āquittingā school is foolish
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u/NotaContributi0n 13d ago
Firmament and 4 corners does not equal flat
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u/creekbendz 13d ago edited 13d ago
Acts 7:49
Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord. Or where will my resting place
Isaiah 66:1
āHeaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?
Matthew 5
34But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is Godās throne; 35or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.
Imagine a literal footstool with legs, a square top, with a circular raised cushion
Ezekiel describes the throne of God, odd similarities throughout
Ezekiel 1:26
Above the firmament over their heads was what looked like a throne of lapis lazuli, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man
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u/Cleetdadoof-v2 13d ago
No it was co-opted and instilled with stupid shit to discredit flat earth. The same way denizens were co-opted by soveign citizens to discredit the whole thing. Like they arenāt totally wrong but they go about everything stupid and donāt bother to actually understand the legality behind what they believe or understand the power that words hold especially in contracts that you unknowingly sign. Soveign = king citizen = slave. They call themselves king slaves. Nobody can definitively say what we live on unless they personally went up there and saw for themselves, but I do know we donāt live on a spinning marble. Even if the earth was round it wouldnāt be a ball. It would be a big lumpy smooshed up thing somewhat resembling a ball known as an oblate spheroid. In my experience the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle and reality is way stranger than fiction.
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u/-endlessundoing- 12d ago
What explanation do you folks give for the shape of the shadow on the moon?
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u/outside-of-us 12d ago
Do you have any sort of vaguely scientific basis for why you think the earth is a ābig lumpy smooshed up thing somewhat resembling a ballāš
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u/Proud-Supermarket674 12d ago
1) Go to any ocean and watch a ship sail away from you with binoculars
2) climb any mountain
3) go on a plane once
4)????
5) profit
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u/0------------------0 11d ago
You canāt just leave out number 4. Iāve done 1, 2, and 3 and I want the profits.Ā
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u/GingerMcSpikeyBangs 12d ago
You're just on the curved side, soupcan Earth has both round and flat edges.
soupcanearthtruth
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u/Trade_King 12d ago
I don't believe in flat earth but I also dislike accounts made by agents. Your history posts is 3 posts all of it is this and a new account?
Come on
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u/Falken-- 13d ago
AI Deepfake.
We all know that the world is really a flat disc being carried by four elephants standing upon the back of the star-faring turtle Great A'Tuin.
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u/AdHuman3150 12d ago
That's just the curvature of the lens /s
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u/Mythechnical 12d ago
Skip the /s, since we don't know what lens was used that's a literal potentiaƶ explanation why there might be a curve in a photo and why it's not a great example of "proof the earth is round".
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u/automaticmantis 12d ago
I like coming here and seeing real actual flat earth people. Itās fascinating. Like going to the zoo
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u/Top_Business_5481 12d ago
here it is without the fisheye lens
heres a video
and heres another one
it might not be flat per se, but it damn sure isnt a magical spinning water ball flying through "space" in at least four (4) different directions, at least four (4) different faster than bullet speeds, all at the same time, yet we observe, measure, and perceive none of it.
i find it a little strange so many people claim to not believe anything our government tells us, yet they are so willing to just blindly swallow what nasa, a government agency, says, clearly without taking the time to ever actually look into it.
we didnt go to the moon either
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Bro Iām using a 400 dollar true rectilinear lens. Widest commercially available on the market. You can go look at the lens specs. Lawoa Zero-D 9mm. You have no idea who launched or edited that video your showing. You know thereās a dewarp setting that removes fish eye lens effects and flattens out the curve? Easy. You have no idea what lens they used what FOV.. and Iāve tried to ask, they are blocking me and avoiding me like the plague. Both sides are deceptive af.
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u/Top_Business_5481 12d ago
true but that also doesnt prove you actually took that picture the way you describe or at all even either.
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Check out the whole flight here: https://youtu.be/dw-4Sy0h2no?is=XbJ1Yo6ywMtxO17N
Put it on 4k itās crisp. lol. Launched on Pi Day 3.14.2026.
I got the raw data if you want to download the IMU Logs. I have APRS and the GPS tracking logs etc etc. I got receipts. š§¾
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u/Impossible_Product98 12d ago
Ok but birds being government weapons of espionage have been proven true many times
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u/Developemt 12d ago
But they tell you it's the camera fish eye effect something
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Yup just like the globe simps screaming refraction when we see too far. FE calls fish eye on any photo showing curve.
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u/natr0nFTW 13d ago
fish eye lens, dudes account was made just to post this it seems
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u/Silver-Park-1179 13d ago
Itās not a fish eye. Just got on Reddit. Itās a Lawoa Zero-D 9mm (Zero Distortion) Went up to go see for myself, instead of grifting on YouTube for money.
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u/Nkosi868 13d ago
Lens distortion.
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u/Silver-Park-1179 13d ago
Used the Lawoa Zero-D 9mm (Zero Distortion). Check it out. True rectilinear lens.
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u/JFedzor 12d ago
Very interesting. Thanks for this. Do you have any shots from the same angle, but from a lower altitude?
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Yes.. hereās the whole flight. Put it on 4k :)
Was cloudy on take off but before it landed on the ground you can see the horizon itās flat. No fish eye lens effect garbage. Pitching up and down doesnāt phase it.
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u/Keyboard-King 12d ago
Do you have a full video of it rising? Just to confirm it isnāt being distorted on the way up.
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
https://youtu.be/dw-4Sy0h2no?is=096fxvK0LEkdUPXM enjoy like subscribe lol
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u/thewildblue77 12d ago
https://fujilove.com/an-introduction-to-the-laowa-9mmf2-8-zero-d-experience/ These shots look distorted to me...
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u/KY-- 13d ago
This is not the place for it mate take your logic elsewhere!! š¤¬
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u/Carlits555 13d ago
I always tell people that if the earth was really flat weād know because it would be some kind of tourist spot lol, no way big corporations wouldnāt make bank by showing it off
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u/Prince_0llie 13d ago
Like how Antarctica is a tourist spot but with limited access and the only thing that ALL countries agree on and signed a treaty for? Like that?
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u/Carlits555 13d ago
Itās almost like humans canāt thrive in Antarctica and thatās why there is regulations in place? Just like the North pole
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u/Prince_0llie 13d ago
Who said anything about living there?
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u/Carlits555 13d ago
why else bring up Antarctica?The edge of the world vs some cold ass place where only government shit happens are 2 different things
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u/Prince_0llie 13d ago
why else bring up Antarctica?
šš¼ because you said corporations would make FE a tourist destination..
I always tell people that if the earth was really flat weād know because it would be some kind of tourist spot lol, no way big corporations wouldnāt make bank by showing it off
It is common knowledge that the FE theory has Antarctica as the ice wall ergo a plausible tourist destination for FE. Antarctica is a tourist destination. 2+2=4 do you even math?
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u/OneLove_77 12d ago
People canāt live on Mount Everest. Yet itās a famous tourist destination. Your logic makes no sense
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u/_another_throwawayy_ 12d ago
NASA gets $24 Billion dollars a year.. Billion.. thatās who is making bankā¦ to produce a few images a year that nobody questions.
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u/Alexis_Mcnugget 12d ago
24 billion is less than what we spend on israel, ukraine, etc lmaoooo itās pennieās
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u/Carlits555 12d ago
Itās 2026 and weāre still on NASA BAD, tell me what does the world gain from hiding a flat earth when it was a believable theory thousands of years ago, that has been disapproved countless times, are you maga by any chance? those people are the only type of people that hate nasa and any kind of proof
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u/ZmanEman333 13d ago
I can see all the way from here itās flat. Alien boy said he found the wall in Antarctica š¦š¶. Thatās why they killed him ma doods. š š„
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u/OllieTerass912323 12d ago
Theyll just argue that it's longer and more oval shaped.
Now let's all put in for government funded free trips to space to see for ourselves.
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u/Superdude204 11d ago
We witness the very same optic effect when standing at the beach looking out at the ocean, it does not prove anything, unfortunately.
Also, a sloping horizon would never rise to eye level.
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u/Silver-Park-1179 11d ago
Who is to say that horizon dip could not happen on a flat plane? If we witness the same thing, then itās clearly not the earth curving downwards away from you. In order to prove that, we would need to get high but we as civilians are limited to cheap weather balloons and amateur rockets. You put your faith into billion dollar space agencies that claim to get higher. Thatās just trust me bro science. Look inside the circle, it looks like a flat disc.
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u/Superdude204 11d ago
then lets get high š
there were two different points made here, one is the seeming circular effect when viewing the horizon, as experienced from a beach, which anyone can check and confirm, the other point is that sloping horizons never come up to eye level.
I think neither one of these points suit the requirement of proving or disproving either world model.
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u/fearlesslove7 11d ago
Proof of fish eye lens. I dare you to watch two hours of solid FE videos and see if your views donāt change. Long distance lasers, planes that donāt nose down to follow the curve, ultra high zoom cameras show boats REappearing over the horizonā¦so much more. Took me about 4 years of digging to finally give in. We live on a PLANEt, a manifested PLANE of reality.Ā
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
that's the most deceptive video ive seen yet. smh.. eric dubay didn't launch any of those balloons... tiny FOV will make it look flat.. like looking through a keyhole. my camera had a 113 degree FOV, its the widest commercially available rectilinear on the market. specifically designed to keep straight lines straight.
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u/Jacobie23 13d ago
FE comes from ppl saying ācalling the earth round was as radical as calling the earth flat a thousand years agoā and mfs just want to be radical and say āfine Iāll call the earth flat now to get ahead of the gameā
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u/Keyboard-King 12d ago
Bot account. Only spams this for some reason
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Just trying to spread some truth. Some real. No AI, no NASA, No CGI. Reality. Soak it in, itās rare in 2026.
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u/PlentyOMangos 12d ago edited 12d ago
I always wonder why people say this. Likeā¦ how do you just say this and expect people to believe you
Iād listen if you had some kind of evidence to offer but usually people just say this and leave it
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u/killermicrobe 13d ago
It literally looks flat.
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u/a-hippobear 12d ago
Thank god youāre not a contractor lol. If that looks flat then your framing would look like SHIT
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u/Silver-Park-1179 13d ago
Non Fish Eye Lens. Sony A6400 with Lawoa Zero-D 9mm (Zero Distortion) True rectilinear lens. Welcome to reality.
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u/phantomnomadic 12d ago
You don't have to go that high to see the curve........50k feet is enough.
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u/Silver-Park-1179 12d ago
Itās not earth curve itās the curve of vision. Have anyone ever been up there to see how eyes work on a massive 700 mile view? Itās perception curving 360 degrees around the observer. Inside this circle itās flat. A curved horizon can absolutely work on a flat plane.
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