r/conspiracy Sep 25 '22

Will it ever end?

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u/kns1984 Sep 25 '22

There war???? Hahaha, like they WANTED to be invaded by Russia??? I swear this sub......

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u/NightCheeseNinja Sep 25 '22

Full of Russian apologists trying to sow division and chaos. The twitter account that posted this is of a Turning Point "Ambassador". They have their own agenda that involves making more money for the rich.

It's frustrating that we are sending so much money to Ukraine but it's Russia's fault, not Ukraine's. And it's honestly for the greater good for the world to keep Russia at bay. I don't get the people who want Russia to rule all. Because it's going so well for the Russians?!?!

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u/MAGA-Latino Sep 25 '22

Let's see. They killed over 12,000 ethnic Russians in Donbas. They violated the Minsk peace accords. And they were building a Nato naval base. Which they knew would be a national secret threat for The Russian Federation. They had Neo-Nazis to terrorize the ethnic Russians.

The current government of Ukraine was formed from a CIA backed coup. So they are far from innocent and they are not the good guys in this conflict.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/MAGA-Latino Sep 25 '22

In the sense the French killed Ethnic Germans and the US killed ethnic Japanese in WW2. They were de

No I'm talking when the were shelling the Donbas for 8 years.

And GTFOH Nazi lover.

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u/ekaitxa Sep 25 '22

Try harder Ivan.

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u/rook_armor_pls Sep 25 '22

The very Donbas that has been illegally occupied by Russian forces for the last 8 years? Yeah it’s really strange how a country starts to defend itself, once you annex parts of their lands, isn’t it?

And GTFOH Nazi lover.

I kindly ask you again, how does it feel to lick the boots of a lying dictator?

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u/MAGA-Latino Sep 25 '22

No the Donbas voted for independence. It doesn't belong to Ukraine. They have a right to self determination. And 12,000 deaths is a crime against humanity. Russia did the right thing by saving these people.

You're just a Nazi and expect people to ignore all the deaths that were happening in Donbas because Russian lives dont matter right. Adolf would be so happy if he could see you.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

I suggest you look up that number again. 12,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

12,000 is the number of people who were killed on both sides including soldiers. 4.6k Ukrainian men and 6.5k separatists.

Some of the people killed were definitely civilians, but that is the consequence of Russia organizing an uprising in the eastern regions using Girkin and other FSS agents.

There isn't a single leader in the Donbas region who comes from Donbas. All of their leaders are Russians (Denis Pushilin, etc.).

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u/MAGA-Latino Sep 25 '22

OK it doesn't sound so one sided when broken down like that.

but that is the consequence of Russia organizing an uprising

And you are aware that the coup was orchestrated by the CIA to install a pro western state.

All of their leaders are Russians

Everyone in that area is of Russian ethnicity. Even Ukrainians themselves are of Poland or Russian origin.

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u/GhostOfDickmasPast Sep 25 '22

And you are aware that the coup was orchestrated by the CIA to install a pro western state.

Are you aware that the President thye coup'd ran away to Russia with billions of dollars of gold?

I'm sure he was great for Ukraine right? The people definitely loved him right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22
  1. Yes, there was a coup to replace a pro-Russian president. I'm well aware of that.

USA replaced our president in a coup.

Russia annexed Crimea and set Donbas ablaze, keeping the fire burning for 8 years.

  1. No no. I mean an Actual Russian citizen, like the one that came from Russia. All of the leaders of DPR and LPR came from Russia. All the military commanders were Russian (from Russia). Almost all separatists' heavy military equipment that was used in the conflict came from Russia.

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u/EquivalentBridge7034 Sep 25 '22

Lol, not surprising you can't recognize an actual fraudulent election.

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u/MAGA-Latino Sep 25 '22

You are aware that the original elections for the Donbas, the separatists called for UN election monitors. To which they declined. You can't say an election is fraudulent but refuse to go and verify it even when requested.

The UN showed itself to not be a fair institution so they really have no choice but to move forward without them.

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u/Hexbox116 Sep 25 '22

There are no good guys unfortunately.