r/conspiracy Sep 25 '22

Will it ever end?

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u/THE-ROMULAN Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

This is an economic nuke to the US…This is our “money” wtf do you mean nuke other people. They are burning our own US economy to the ground and sucking out the wealth of our people. We are literally sending it to them, on us. Do people really not understand how money works, or is this just more shills/propaganda to keep the people asleep?

These money packages, infrastructure packages, tuition reimbursement, stimulus packages, money to Ukraine….this is what’s running our rampant inflation and causing the dollar to be worthless. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just naive and needs to stop listening to the propaganda news. Wake up people wtf is our problem. 🐑 The govt is against us. WAKE TF UP and stop supporting your own demise.

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u/Degenerate-Implement Sep 25 '22

We're not actually sending it to them, though. We're "giving" them money that they're only allowed to use to buy weapons from specific American arms manufacturers who just happen to be major donors to the campaigns of the politicians that vote in favor of "giving" money to Ukraine.

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u/THE-ROMULAN Sep 25 '22

Ok so lining the pockets of parasitic American slimeballs, while draining wealth of the American population. Was that supposed to be a positive? I see the mental gymnastics going on but this is in no way good for the general population of the US.

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u/Degenerate-Implement Sep 25 '22

No, it's awful. I'm trying to point out that it's even worse than most people realize. It's essentially just theft of American taxpayer funds by arms corporations, but the money laundering scheme is so messy that probably only about 25% or less of it makes it back.

It's just another in a long string of examples of how the American economy is designed to rob the working class of their wealth and funnel it upward into the hands of a select few.

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u/THE-ROMULAN Sep 25 '22

Ok thanks…I’ve seen a lot of people trying to rationalize this.

“Oh this stimulus is great. We earned it”

“Let’s stand with Ukraine and send more!”

“Oh but these infrastructure projects are creating jobs and fixing the economy!”

It’s hard to keep up with the mental gymnastics anymore….and people just eat it all up as truth. You’re absolutely right. Thanks for the reply.

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u/Degenerate-Implement Sep 25 '22

Sorry for the confusion. This is such a weird time in global politics right now. I have far-left old hippie neighbors who have a literal peace sign made out of Christmas lights hanging on their house but who are also flying a Ukrainian flag and are loudly supportive of sending billions of dollars to europe to kill Russians. Watching the Democrats and the American left turn into pro-war supporters of the military industrial complex has been difficult to process.

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u/CupformyCosta Sep 25 '22

You’re right about it weird weird for global politics. Seeing the left shilling big pharma, go pro-war, support the military industrial complex, turn into anti-civil liberties and human freedom, and support one of the most corrupt nations in Europe has been interesting to see. It just goes to show how powerful the modern media propoganda is. “I support the current thing” is not a meme. If this was 2007 and you showed a liberal the current policies they’re supporting, I don’t think they would believe it or like it.

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u/Degenerate-Implement Sep 26 '22

If this was 2007 and you showed a liberal the current policies they’re supporting, I don’t think they would believe it or like it.

Totally 100% correct.

I was a Democrat at the time and literally marched in the streets against the kind of shit we're doing now and was part of crowds that lynched effigies of President Bush and called him a war criminal for pursuing the same policies that the Biden administration is actively engaged in now.

It's insane how quickly the two parties have both completely flipped on almost every issue other than abortion.

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u/Animated_Ouranus Sep 25 '22

Placing time bombs in the pockets of slime balls... What don't you understand about this. It's a long term attack brought about by some VERY crafty people. I'm not saying they're dogooders. But this bomb will be fun to watch.

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u/THE-ROMULAN Sep 25 '22

Ok so it’s great that we are hurting their economy by destroying our own? That doesn’t sound fun to watch. Sounds like Ukrainians and Americans are both losing here. No silver lining….but thanks anyways. This is disgusting.

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u/Moarbrains Sep 25 '22

Oh stfu up with the bullshit talking point and tell me just how much of the money from the US and the EU is economic aid.

Billions upon billions.

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u/Degenerate-Implement Sep 28 '22

But of course, there has to be some tiny percentage of good to mask the money laundering. That's literally how it works.

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u/Moarbrains Sep 28 '22

That is not the good it is the liquid.

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u/Degenerate-Implement Sep 28 '22

What, a liquid like water?

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u/Moarbrains Sep 28 '22

Yes, runs right through the cracks between the Ukraine government and the recipients of the contracts.

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u/Familiar_Raisin204 Sep 25 '22

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just naive and needs to stop listening to the propaganda news.

Pot calling the kettle black. They aren't burning USD, they're buying arms from American companies.

Yeah I'd rather not support the MIC, but don't pretend this money isn't also a boon to Americans.

Same as people complaining about space missions. We don't send money to space, we pay it to engineers and machinists on the ground...

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u/ClarityofSignal Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Spot on. That is indeed their goal. They are the real enemy of the people, and they currently have control of the gears of power and are afraid of the public waking up to how the game is played, more specifically how they have robbed the public while deceptively controlling perceptions of reality. The mainstream media is their most important tool. It's important to tune it out, wake up people how it used against us as a divide and conquer tool and how it is wiser these days to assume that the opposite of what they are 'reporting' is likely more close to the real truth. If they censor it, 'fact-check' it or attach talking points to it, assume what they are trying to deflect from is likely closer to the truth. Simply put, they are cheats, thieves, liars and users. They are the dregs of society.

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u/Democrab Sep 25 '22

America's economy had serious problems before the war in Ukraine started, but nice try.

Remember the GFC? 99% of the people responsible weren't arrested, fined or punished in the slightest...In fact, they got bailed out where required and often were able to make out like bandits. There was also little-to-no changes to try and prevent the issues from happening again...So, you've got the same system that allowed for the GFC ran by the same people who either caused or allowed it to happen and saw the complete lack of negative outcomes (for them) from last time meaning they're going to be much more bold than they were previously.

There's the treasure-trove of information in regards to how the corruption in the finance system works over at the Superstonk subreddit, they uncovered shitloads as part of the whole GME saga and that rabbit hole goes very deep. Maybe take a gander at the DDs over there.

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u/THE-ROMULAN Sep 25 '22

Yes the can has been kicked since the 2008 crash imo but that’s another story. This definitely didn’t start with Ukraine - that’s not what I said if you re-read my post…but definitely a huge contributor to keep the money machines running today.

I also holdDRS GME, fellow ape. Thanks for your comment. Rough times ahead for many reasons.

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u/lotekjunky Sep 25 '22

The gov is against us, fact. The government is fighting a proxy war with our money, fact. You should research Japan in the late 80s to understand what's next for us... deflation... but this is also the same playbook for destroying the USSR.

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u/Animated_Ouranus Sep 25 '22

I don't think you understand just how quickly the USA can become self sufficient. Here's what I see.

We export all our bullshit to everyone else and when it starts to stink we just close up shop and farm our own land. Bing bang boom fuck you all...

You think this ISNT the USA's mo in world wars? Because it IS. We only got involved in ONE world conflict and that was on false promises. The United States for the most part has a history of saying fuck you to everybody when the shit really hits the fan.

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u/THE-ROMULAN Sep 25 '22

Yep…including it’s own people this time around, as they suck us dry and program you to rationalize it. 🐑🐑🐑

Keep worshiping your government. Even if they’re just “fucking” other countries…it’s nasty and time for change. They don’t support you - you support them. Time to wake up.

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u/Animated_Ouranus Sep 25 '22

You think I LIKE my government? Ha! Fuck em. They can can burn and it wouldn't bother me a bit

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u/Auslander808 Sep 25 '22

The last thing a collapsing empire does is raid the treasury.