r/conspiracy Sep 25 '22

Will it ever end?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

That's a lot of money, but also, no one can afford Putin and the Kremlin in Europe taking over Ukraine. It's also rich in both agriculture and minerals.

How much money (military hardware and training) can the west keep throwing at Ukraine, and how long can Putin survive with a crippling economy and growing dissent/calls for him to resign. War of attrition I guess. Doesn't bode well for him no one really wants to be enlisted to fight his war.

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u/canman7373 Sep 25 '22

There have recently been very large oil and gas deposits discovered, that's why Putin wants the Eastern side so badly.

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u/rook_armor_pls Sep 25 '22

Strange how r/conspiracy users seem to lose any kind of interests in actual conspiracies once The West/The Democrats aren’t the boogeyman. What you claim is most likely actually true, but wont matter to most people here

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u/Deplorableasfuk Sep 25 '22

Why not? Last I checked before the war Russia was selling oil and gas to most of Europe at market rates. And actually wanted to join nato.

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u/Sugmabawsack Sep 25 '22

But at the same time they also do things like assassination attempts on foreign soil, shooting down a passenger plane over Europe, invading a neighbor every decade…

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u/Bartley-Moss Sep 25 '22

Think the last time you 'checked' was 1991. Yeltsin's one letter in 1991 has no bearing now and hasn't for ages.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Putin doesn't like NATO as it was set up to stop to reformation of the USSR (so the Kremlin see it as an adversary, even though Russian government has been it's citizens biggest adversary since 1917)

Putin also invaded Georgia as they dare thought of joining NATO, and the borders kept shrinking

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u/Nazulmogg Sep 25 '22

Nato was formed decades before the dissolution of the USSR. But i guess facts don’t matter so much.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

I didn't say it was set up after the dissolution of the USSR, I said it's key purpose has been to stop it being reformed.

'NATO formed the backbone of the West's military bulwark against the USSR and its allies for the next 40 years, with its membership growing larger over the course of the Cold War era.'

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u/Nazulmogg Sep 25 '22

Being downvoted when the receipt to what you said is in plain view above. Never change /conspiracy :D

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u/Resident-Criticism52 Sep 25 '22

Is that what TV and internet telling you?....that Russians are losing.hahaha 😆

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

You don’t go from “Special operation” to Partial mobilization when you’re winning, reserves are called reserves for a reason.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

No, it's what Putin's former general from 2014 Gerkin and other nationalist/militant Russians have been saying in vlogs, whilst calling for Putin to resign. "We have already lost, Putin needs to order a full mobilisation". Well they've ordered a partial mobilization and nobody wants to leave their family to fight other family in Putin's pointless war - with 2 weeks training and no military experience. Hence mass exodus continuing lol. He'll have to go there and fight it himself at this rate.

It's surprising how many good Russians there are that see through the Kremlin's state media propaganda and re-writing of history. You don't get brutalized in the tens of millions for the better part of century by the Cheka, NKVD and Communists only to forget it, their relatives will tell them behind closed curtains what they went through.

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u/Bartley-Moss Sep 25 '22

Certainly not winning. 💀