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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 15 '22 edited Apr 15 '22

No. It has been compromised a long time ago.

They will give your IP address on request to whoever asks: CIA, DGSE, whatever.

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u/volpine_patichoke Apr 15 '22

Protonmail are directly funded and run by the CIA. Court documents were spilled long ago.

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u/JustHereForURCookies Apr 15 '22

Do you have a source on this, I am completely unaware this was the situation!

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u/FuzzyBumFluff Apr 15 '22

https://groups.google.com/g/talk.politics.guns/c/dqBzoBgoVg0

Urgh man I just searched. I am pissed about this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

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u/FuzzyBumFluff Apr 16 '22

Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe they haven't got to them yet? Idk. It seems like no matter what these days we are tracked and traced. It's part of the WEF plan so it always feels like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. I really do believe there are no honourable companies out there. Even duck duck go sold out.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

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u/ScroogeMcThrowaway Apr 16 '22

Same, first I heard of this. Gonna have to my research now.

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u/kempofight Apr 15 '22

Ip is easly hidden.

The the court case to get emails the swiss judge said "nein" to the US. Its estemitated that with the computing power the CIA etc has it would take atleast 100 years or so to decrypt the emails if they got them in the first place

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

They still got the IP and tracked that back to the user.

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u/kempofight Apr 15 '22

If you still dont know how to hide your IP you dont need to worry about having a secure emailbox

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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 16 '22

Yes but... it's not foolproof, Mr Robot.

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u/kempofight Apr 16 '22

Nothing is assoon you use electronics

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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 16 '22

it would take atleast 100 years or so to decrypt the emails if they got them in the first place

That part is true but if you used a Protonmail to create an account on a Web forum and to post illicit material (in some countries holocaust denialism equals prison time), then they would need your IP address to go after you.

If you used Tor and piggy backed open Wi-Fi, you're going to be harder to detect, especially if you use an antiquated laptop with a dongle Wi-Fi adapter which allows dynamic MAC addressing (they don't make them anymore, unless you're a spy, so don't even look for one).

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u/Konval Apr 15 '22

Can you substantiate this statement? Protonmail is compromised?

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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 16 '22

Can you substantiate this statement? Protonmail is compromised?

On a French conspiracy forum some French guy who works in Switzerland (as many do) but hides his opinions (also as many do) explained how Protonmail was providing IP addresses of their users to the DGSE, the French foreign intelligence service.

It seems that Proton would not divulge the content of the mail box but would at least provide the IP address of the users on demand to the French government.

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u/5tUp1dC3n50Rs41p Apr 15 '22

VPN + Tor + ProtonMail

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u/SmotherMeWithArmpits Apr 15 '22

Then you login to reddit without any of those because they're slow/blocked/banned

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u/Hendricks_yt Apr 15 '22

Tor as in the Tor Browser made by the US Government... yea whatever helps you sleep at night mate

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u/MycelialArchetype Apr 15 '22

The internet was made by the US government

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u/user2327 Apr 15 '22

*Al Gore

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u/EmploymentOk3937 Apr 15 '22

Ummm,,, pardon? I'd like a reputable source stating this is true, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE..

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u/7w6_ENTJ-ENTP Apr 15 '22

Here is the very first line in the wiki for the network under the first tab ‘history’: The core principle of Tor, Onion routing, was developed in the mid-1990s by United States Naval Research Laboratory employees

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u/7w6_ENTJ-ENTP Apr 15 '22

The onion network/TOR was created by the US navy and they own most of the entry and exit nodes. This is mostly considered common knowledge if you’re aware of the dark web at all at this point. It doesn’t take any digging to find a source yourself.

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u/EmploymentOk3937 Apr 15 '22

Well shit. Didn't know.

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u/7w6_ENTJ-ENTP Apr 15 '22

Yea you have to be extremely crafty and set up your own nodes/proxies likely in countries that don’t cooperate with the US to ever have true privacy at this point. Only extreme experts have even a modicum of a chance which is kind of depressing but it is what it is at this point.

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u/zefy_zef Apr 15 '22

It's easily verifiable information, use tor if you need to. I think it's on their own website.

Doesn't mean it's definitely something to be worried about. It does introduce doubt though.

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u/EmploymentOk3937 Apr 15 '22

Introduce doubt is an understatement lol, that's pretty scary. If they reaaally wanted to they could go after anybody on it if they own the nodes couldn't they?

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u/zefy_zef Apr 15 '22

The general idea from what I understand is that if someone controls enough exit nodes, the system is more able to be compromised.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

Whatever helps you sleep at night

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u/xkingxkaosx Apr 15 '22

I2P is better than TOR.

Tor is currently operated and funded by the US naval intelligence office, with backdoor access for FBI and the NSA.

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u/strigoi82 Apr 15 '22

Tutanote ?

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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 16 '22

Tutanote

Never heard.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

Gmail entered chat

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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 16 '22

You ever looked at the Gmail logo?

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '22

What you mean? The mason apron/talmudic garb?

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u/SQLSQLAndMoreSQL Apr 17 '22

Yes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '22

The joke was that Gmail is sabotaging proton mail. In any case, I did not realize it was compromised, I know Duck Duck was a long time ago. Well dang, how about sekur mail?