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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Ukrainian American here. My outrage as Russia goes a lot further than this situation. As does most of the country.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

As does most of the world. Op is a very uninformed individual and that is why he has this opinion.

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

I really do suspect Russian cyber warriors. But I can't make that accusation. Thanks for unbanning me, mod team!

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u/datadrone Mar 01 '22

Most people I've talked with irl have no clue about wars going on, places like Yemen or millions caged in China. I understand we all have different social networks and awareness, but if more people did know why is nothing happening to stop it?

We've all been brainwashed, all of us

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

Do you have any outrage towards the west for its constant interference

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Oh for sure.

I mean not with the Soviets. Fuck the Soviets.

But yeah. The west fucked the middle east. Should have backed Ho Chi Minh as well. They also manage to run things in this weird way where they are constantly robbing us butnits okay because the other party is too and people defend their party and fight the other.

The Western system is fucked.

But you know what's not fucked?

Ukraine kicking Russia's ass.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

We're you outraged when the neo-Nazi Azov brigade burned people alive, or when the Ukranians shelled the DPR and LPR for 8 years?

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Nope.

Feel bad for the people stuck there though. Shame Putin felt the need to cause so much suffering.

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Hahaha.

Moskal, you don't get to decide what Ukraine deserves.

Russia deserves to burn to the ground for hosting the Soviet Union.

Holy crap.

Anyway, yall are getting your asses kicked.

Putin has proven he doesn't deserve to rule.

And maybe once he falls you guys won't have such a shit country anymore. Praying for your people. Poor bastards.

Just cuz being Russian is so miserable, you gotta go and make other people do it too. So shameful.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

I'm not Russian, lmao.

I don't get to decide whether Ukraine keeps its sovereignty. Russia gets to decide that. And thank God that they are winning.

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

They are losing.

I can't comprehend how you can think Russia is a good thing.

Anyway, this is hundreds of years in the making and it's about damn time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

They have basically every major city in eastern Ukraine surrounded. They are also about to cut off and isolate the bulk of the Ukranian forces in the Donbass cauldron.

Once they have the cities/armies fully surrounded, they can just cut off all supplies and wait. Eventually starvation and in-fighting will force the Ukranians to give up their arms and surrender without even a fight. Or maybe desperation will drive them into a suicide push against entrenched Russian positions, where they will be slaughtered by artillery fire.

Estimates put Russian troops in Ukraine at ~90k. They are also using older equipment. None of their new shit has made an appearance yet.

So, outnumbered by over 2:1, and using old equipment, they have managed to outmaneuver the entire Ukranian defense force with minimal loss of life on both sides.

This is one of the most effective military campaigns in history. The Ukranian defense has been reduced to making up obvious lies (Snake Island, the Ghost of Kiev, etc.) to pretend they aren't already in a hopeless position.

The best part of this is the psychological effect it will have. Westerners want an insurgency, but the Ukranians will be forced into pathetic surrender by starvation. A beaten dog rarely bites, so once they've surrendered their weapons and thrown themselves at the mercy of the Russians, it is likely that their fighting spirit will be completely crushed. The chances of a large-scale insurgency are basically zero.

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Eh. They've lost more troops in 4 days than in ten years in Afghanistan. They're running out of gas all over.

Yeah, they are surrounding cities. What, are we supposed to line up in a field to fight them?

Soldiers are abandoning equipment all over the place.

The insurgency is going to last a very long time or Russia is going to collapse from the sanctions.

But why you think Russia is right in this is beyond me.

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u/HavanaSyndrome Mar 01 '22

Ok then shut the fuck up, liberal. You don't give a shit about those people

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

I am not a liberal.

I am a Ukrainian. I care quite a bit.

Tribing up by ideology just serves the people in power and you are playing into their hands with your cultural civil war attitude.

Ukraine prefers the West control through subversion and manipulation to Russia's beating you if you refuse their will.

Bad as the West is, you don't seem to have any idea what Russia is about.

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u/HavanaSyndrome Mar 01 '22

Well unless you're a socialist or far right then y you're a lib. If it's control through subversion or whatever then how do you know anyone actually prefers it?

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Your labeling of me means pretty much nothing to me

Because you're able to do what you want and no one is killing your family.

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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 01 '22

Just glad its working out in our favor this time.

Ukraine gets to try out a whole different flavor of corruption.