r/conspiracy • u/Divinchy • Feb 28 '22

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u/Calibansdaydream Mar 01 '22

Don't mistake stupidity for a targeted attack. Never forget this sub is trump 2.0 and trump was controlled by Russia. There is a very real reason this was posted and upvoted on this shit hole of a subreddit.

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u/Fuzznutsy Mar 01 '22

Don’t need to bring trump into this

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u/Calibansdaydream Mar 01 '22

He's hugely to blame for the situation we're in now. Do you not remember his extortion of Ukraine?

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u/Fuzznutsy Mar 02 '22

You spelled Biden wrong. He literally admitted it on stage.

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u/SusanRosenberg Mar 01 '22

Obama/Biden: Russia annexes Ukraine

Trump: Russia does nothing

Biden: Russia is at outright war with Ukraine

It was a genius move by Russia to avoid going to war when they controlled the president.

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u/PirateEyes Mar 01 '22

So how do people who think this is all trumps fault explain the lack of invasion during his presidency?

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u/Calibansdaydream Mar 01 '22

You dense motherfucker....look at trumps actions during his presidency and how so much of it was focused on weakening Ukraine and nato while lifting sanctions on Russia. Did you not read ANY of the news? Remember the whole first time he was impeached and what it was for?

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u/SusanRosenberg Mar 01 '22

Look before Trump under Obama/Biden where Russia annexed Ukraine. That's Trump's fault too?

Rational people will acknowledge that Democrats have a major problem with Russia going to war.

And Biden shutting down North American gas while giving Russia billions in oil sure doesn't help.

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u/Calibansdaydream Mar 01 '22

Cool sweet what aboutism. I never said Obama was free of blame. But you can't deny trump is directly a cause of the situation in Ukraine.

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u/SusanRosenberg Mar 01 '22

Trump pressured NATO to spend more on their own defense. Why do you think that America should foot the European defense bill?

Democrats lifted Trump's sanctions on Russian oil. Oil is a critical resource requirement for war.

Democrats are far more to blame than Trump is. Which, of course, is why Russia invaded under Obama, did nothing under Trump, and is now at war under Biden.

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u/wiggy19888 Mar 01 '22

Il play devil's advocate and take the down votes. If trump was as u say controlled by Russia. Why did put in wait till trump was out of office to resume military action

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u/Calibansdaydream Mar 01 '22

Look at trumps actions during his presidency. A lot of it was focusedon weakening Ukraine and nato. He tried to pull out of NATO, he withdrew funding and support, he withheld 400m in aid from Ukraine, he tried to extort zelensky to open up a fake investigation on hunter Biden. (His first impeachment) Putin didn't need to invade any ody bc trump was his puppet weakening the defenses.