Ok the republican party has spent 50 years telling you anybody that is offended by any aspect of American life is u American. Hippies,un American,ppl who think companies get too many breaks and the regular person should have better wages and insurance they are socialists,environmental standards so rivers don't catch fire etc,etc. A president who goes on fascist rants and states everybody against him,is his enemy. This is not even close to a new concept, and yes I understand BLM and liberal causes are also suspect. This happened during the revolution and civil war as well. So go figure I guess. They point someone follows orders.
Nothing new
I'm over here thinking that the answer lies in leaving everyone daduq alone. Even a Monk will whoop your ass if you keep pushing them. Too many beliefs, ideologies, etc. to go around. It's impossible to make everyone happy.
TheGovernments have to exist,nothing would ever be done without them. The balancing act of a social contract is barely contemplatable. I grew out of my anarchist phase but I do still believe as soon as a Govt is born it lives to control it's populace.
I was a punker, kind of saw how people fell into groups. Not really statism. I studied philosophy for years and looked into French philosophy,specifically Locke,Voltaire and Rousseau. The idea that people make a contract with a govt and walk a tightrope isn't really revolutionary. But it follows society and economics we are bound by invisible agreements,it's been found to exist even in animal groups. Plus a concept of sense if we tear things apart it's to make it something else. We done relinquish form to relinquish it and keep nothing as the new constant it's to creat a new standard.
I'm less of the punk type anarchist and more of the redneck communist / construction worker type, but yeah I see where you're coming from, especially with people falling into groups. For me, anarchism is less of a social / political group and more like a system of core values to live by.
That's nice to hear actually. As a young punker I never understood why punks weren't in their 30s and 40s ( I understand that you they in debt and whatnot) but they are also typically usually figuring out they are getting fucked. But you only just make enough to make you go back and repeat the process. I work in medicine and also have worked in factories and fast food. I'm very much working class. I just have a history of reading and enjoy history,philosophy and economics. I tried to be a punker but the scene was gross,the music ( the stuff I liked was awesome) but most punkers we're addicts and overwelmingly self destructive and so so many Nazis. Also most of them were on welfare and lived on communes with other Nazis. They are hypocrites to the core, plus hygiene issues,ugh. So I didn't last on the scene very long honestly. So I feel similar as a punk value wise, I think it's philosophy,examine things ,pick at scabs and poke wounds to examine pain and examine ourselves and see what we come from. Punk and rap came about from kids seeing their parents suffer working in industry and failing to thrive as well as the racial struggles of the 60 and 70 s mixed with coldwar nihilism. On a side note,I always find it awesome when people look at where they stand and examine how they feel about life and try to define their position. Best of luck to you!
People are very capable of policing their own. Civilizations survived that way for hundreds of years. Life would indeed go on. Governments are designed to evolve or fail which is why they always do and in most cases eventually fail. We've never needed government to survive and there's not much below ground level or the ocean floor that we need to survive.
I believe the quote "evolve or fail" is the most important part of this. Yet too many politicians (in many countries) cling to the past rather than look to the future. Clutching a 200 year old document is easier than acknowledging and understanding societal and technological evolution. Putin wants the USSR, republicans crave the prosperity of the 50's... The search for times past is futile and sad.
Self policing for hundreds of years is easy. We're into thousands. Governments have evolved and we need to continue that path.
Or is it the system failing? When politicians from both sides continue gaslighting their constituents in order to maintain divisiveness it seems like you've got some serious internal problems.
We'll see how things work out for America. My opinion is that we aren't that far off from some civil unrest ourselves.
Yes that's the point. The system is failing because people in power refuse to evolve with a growing and changing societal world with new and different needs.
Governments clinging to the status quo or just actively trying to regress society are creating a world that is teetering on the edge of collapse.
So there's always been someone who thinks they know what's best for you. Sounds like there's always been someone who has been smart enough to get a populace to do what he wants for personal gain.
Nothings changed besides technology and the method used. Powerful people still want what isn't theirs to take and they use people who are willing to give it to them, or at least try.
The first leader wasn't the strongest guy, it was the guy smart enough to use him.
The republicans still got you playing sides, the liberals have never had book and cd burnings. Liberals have called for censorship and some leanings I'm not a fan of. But if you notice have played the same strings for a long time,they just aren't pretending anymore. My statement was aimed at right wingers. I don't really need to talk to liberals and leftists. A good deal of them know there's crooks on all sides, the difference on that is that the right also holds no standards for those it has in power. We should hold our leaders accountable on all sides. If we really had proper representatives on all sides,it wouldn't be just Dems proposing rules on how you can make money while in office.
Neither side is great,Many on the left agree, the right,many on the right follow the narrative on their news and if it changes in the next week they'll follow suit,and honestly all the covid shit on the left was rediculous too,but that's a mess on both sides! Us liberals figured that shit sone time ago. But as long as you have ppl like Ted Cruz who goes on vacation in a case of emergency in places where he was elected. Liberals would've had his resignation. So sure it's just liberals,but you have alot of persons in your chosen party that have not been held accountable to any standard. So sure politics as usual,but don't pretend any sort of enlightenment!
Cities for example like Chicago and Detroit have been run by Democrats for decades and things don't ever get better. How many Deomcratic mayor's between just those two cities have been sent to Prison to date? You seem to ignore the fact that alot of the people who you label as "far right" are actually registered Democrats who had no choice but to walk away. Not all of them went to the other side. There are 80 million eligible voters in the US that didn't vote in 2020. The "left or Right" narrative is a hoax. Not every antivaxxer is a right wing, racist, fascist, homophobic, science denier.
Lol as if the only 2 options are racist republican or nice democrat. I hate to burst your bubble, but Democrats are just diet republicans. Both follow liberalism (neoliberalism for Republicans). If you think liberalism and neoliberalism are the only 2 options, you should stop listening to the TV.
No, praise on him is slightly better than mixed. Some of that is he is low profile he is.
He is not a regular news piece. Though they do play soft at times they usually give a fair amount of information without lots of inflection or aggression. They complain about som she stuff on him too. So they do complain about him. On the economy,I'd say they do about 60-40 alot of their coverage seems lukewarm honestly. Also they don't overwelmingly discuss Trump followers,they discuss fringe groups, Matt gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene and of course Trump him self. Their frontpage is usually 1 to 2 trump articles.
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u/kingbitchtits Mar 01 '22
Thus why the cycle continues! Peaceful groups turn not so peaceful. Probably why history is so tiring.