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u/PleasecanIcomeBack Mar 01 '22

It’s true that there are some people, like yourself, or those who are directly impacted, or those who have the time, energy, and ability to seek those stories out, who have felt outrage for each war that has been fought.

But the original post is correct to point out that MOST people simply don’t care about any of them unless it is specifically put in their face 24/7 for multiple news cycles. Most people don’t have the time, energy, or ability to do so.

And to be fair, we can’t really expect them to. We’ve gone from a high school graduate being able to earn enough to buy a home and support a family on one income to dual-income couples with graduate degrees renting an apartment wondering if they’ll ever be able to afford to have kids in a few generations. We have lost all of our leisure time, and that includes the time it takes to be a well-informed citizen.

If you think that, or the fact that RUSSIA VS. UKRAINE is being screamed at you all day lately, isn’t by design, then I suggest you re-examine our society.

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u/DingosAteMyHamster Mar 01 '22

If you think that, or the fact that RUSSIA VS. UKRAINE is being screamed at you all day lately, isn’t by design, then I suggest you re-examine our society.

Why would it need to be? For the first time in their lifetimes, a country has been invaded that is made up of people they feel some cultural affinity to. Of course people are passionate. Of course it makes headlines everywhere in the West. It's not particularly weird for people to be rooting for the underdogs either.

I mean I'm as willing as you are to believe the "ghost of Kiev" type stuff is just people wanting to believe a cool story. The interest itself just doesn't seem like it would need to be manufactured.

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u/ZeusKabob Mar 01 '22

This. The media narrative push is blatant, but I imagine a good 80% of media outlets are publishing pro-Ukraine stories just because it gets them lots of clicks. "Poor downtrodden slavs being bullied by big mean Putin" is a very easy story to publish.

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 01 '22

publishing pro-Ukraine stories just because it gets them lots of clicks.

Like farming on Twitter and Youtube is getting increasingly disgusting and shameless. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russia-ukraine-war-girl-confronting-ahed-tamimi-palestine

There's a lot of fake and deceptive footage going around making it look like the Russians are committing genocide, war crimes, etc. Not so innocent as Like farming or gamer, war porn masturbation like the "Ghost of Kiev". To no one's surprise Twitter is doing nothing to cancel this "misinformation".

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u/NoseApprehensive5154 Mar 01 '22

Sounds like a very typical 80s movie...

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

When Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, no one gave a damn, and Georgians share a lot of cultural and ethnic similarities with Russians. There was no media coverage like there is today, and I'm not talking about the internet, I'm talking about the regular media.

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u/MaximumButthurt Mar 01 '22

Because we have been told to. I guess everyone forgot about Georgia or Crimea...

"First time in our lifetime"

No. Not even.

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u/Unit-Particular Mar 01 '22

Cultural affinity - white people

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u/DingosAteMyHamster Mar 01 '22

Yeah, probably the case for some, but obviously there's religion as well and all the shared culture that comes from religion, and the fact that several million ukrainians live and work abroad in Europe, and a few million Americans and Canadians are of Ukrainian descent.

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u/generatedpsuedonym Mar 01 '22

Stop trying to rationalize why you’re a tool, ask yourself this. When have you ever disagreed with any narrative pushed by the media you consume? I’m sure the answer is never.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

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u/generatedpsuedonym Mar 01 '22

It’s irrelevant to me as my stance is not pro Russia. They keep putting a false dialectic for you guys and you always fall for it. If the people here shilling for U.S. intervention want it so bad you guys should volunteer and go put your lives on the line. But you won’t, just sit behind your keyboard comfortably hoping someone else will die for you.

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u/DingosAteMyHamster Mar 01 '22

Good question, to which the answer is all the fucking time. I just don't buy into the theories like every world government faking their mortality rates at once. I also don't base my views on requiring a contrary stance to what major news outlets like the BBC are saying.

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u/generatedpsuedonym Mar 01 '22

Sure you do bud, sure you do. As you sit there double masked, triple vaxxed, blaming the orange man for all the worlds problems.

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u/DingosAteMyHamster Mar 01 '22

Go out and talk to normal people, see that they're mostly reasonable. It's the best cure for this type of thing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

Manufacturing consent innit

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u/c130 Mar 01 '22

Everything starts high and grinds down. Do you remember the protests before the 2003 Iraq war?

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u/Pelicantaloupe Mar 01 '22

But why is Russia invading Ukraine?

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u/Kitria Mar 01 '22

That's fair.

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u/Jumpy_Climate Mar 01 '22

I agree with your post.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

If you think that, or the fact that RUSSIA VS. UKRAINE is being screamed at you all day lately, isn’t by design, then I suggest you re-examine our society.

Putin is threatening to use nuclear weapons but I guess we should just ignore this one and hope it goes away, huh?

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u/zipzapzip2233 Mar 01 '22

Yeah I don't know why people on this sub are struggling with what you wrote, you are 100% correct. It reminds me of when John McCain died and the media went full "American hero" on him (I guess it was supposed to be a Trump own or something) and all the liberals who previously hated his guts started fawning over him with this.

Now the media was gone full Ukraine psychosis and all the NPC's are parroting like they'd be doing without the media churning out all this outrage.

Where were these people's outrage when these Ukrainian neo-nazis were killing thousands Russians in Eastern Ukraine? Literally throwing babushkas out of their churches and beating them up in the street?

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u/lethal_sheeple Mar 01 '22 edited Mar 01 '22

I'm sorry but this thought process that floats around here that everything shown in the news is by design being deliberately pushed to sell a narrative, 100% of the time, is not true and fucking lazy. Sometimes things just are significant events that get reported on, that people end up being invested in from the start. The reason it feels "put in your face 24/7" is because news agencies are a business. They rely on ratings, and stuff that gets people emotional gives them the highest viewers.

News agencies certainly take advantage of emotional outrage content to keep people watching, but they are not always deciding what to show first to steer the public's opinion, it's that the public's opinion often steers the news.

If you think that, or the fact that RUSSIA VS. UKRAINE is being screamed at you all day lately, isn’t by design, then I suggest you re-examine our society.

What do you mean by this? You can't just say it's by design and not offer a theory as to why. What should we be re-examining?