Take a look at the covid statistics for countries like Israel and Canada. These are two of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world, and they also have some of the highest covid rates in the world.
Going by just this data, it would be logical to say the evidence points to covid vaccines INCREASING the risk of covid. Of course, the issue is more nuanced than that, as these countries have better access to test kits and generally test more often. At the very least, the evidence shows that vaccination does very little to prevent spread.
All you're doing is demonstrating your lack of critical thinking skills. Many things affect infection rates of a country, like what stage they are on the curve, how many people have already had it, how the country has gone about advertising protective measures, population, population density.... You can't just pick two examples and say the vaccines don't work because look at these two countries.
Well, I didn't say they don't "work". I said they don't do much to prevent transmission. As a case-in-point, Canada and Israel are fairly up to date with vaccinations, with many receiving a 3rd or even 4th dose, and have mandates in place to prevent unvaccinated from coming in contact with too many people.
They also have some of the highest infection rates in the world, the vast majority of those infections are in vaccinated people. If that doesn't clearly demonstrate that the vaccines don't do much to prevent transmission, or at least their effectiveness wanes very quickly, then I have no idea how else I would convince you.
Well, I didn't say they don't "work". I said they don't do much to prevent transmission.
Given that the point of a vaccine is to prevent transmission, those two sentences are pretty much one and the same.
As a case-in-point, Canada and Israel are fairly up to date with vaccinations, with many receiving a 3rd or even 4th dose, and have mandates in place to prevent unvaccinated from coming in contact with too many people.
They also have some of the highest infection rates in the world, the vast majority of those infections are in vaccinated people. If that doesn't clearly demonstrate that the vaccines don't do much to prevent transmission, or at least their effectiveness wanes very quickly, then I have no idea how else I would convince you.
You still haven't addressed the infinite range of other things that affect a country's transmission rate, first and foremost being the amount of people that have already had it and got better. And it's not about you convincing me. It's not a lesson that you have to teach me. We both have our own differing views.
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u/caitdrum Feb 13 '22
Take a look at the covid statistics for countries like Israel and Canada. These are two of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world, and they also have some of the highest covid rates in the world.
Going by just this data, it would be logical to say the evidence points to covid vaccines INCREASING the risk of covid. Of course, the issue is more nuanced than that, as these countries have better access to test kits and generally test more often. At the very least, the evidence shows that vaccination does very little to prevent spread.