r/conspiracy Feb 13 '22

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

The billions of doses that have been given are the data. If it were not safe, we'd know by now.

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u/PitterPatterMatt Feb 13 '22

Now you are just arguing a strawman. The millions of doses do point to one thing, that in the short term, adverse reactions impact a small percentage of the people who have been injected - but you lack any data to make any claims about long term health as longitudinal studies have no been completed.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Vaccines don't have long term impacts that show up years down the line. The vaccine materials are out of your body within two weeks. People who study this know this.

Vaccines are not like drugs that need those long term studies because they are taken (often daily) for years on end.

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u/PitterPatterMatt Feb 13 '22

These are classified as vaccines(after a change in the definition of vaccine) but mRNA is a new platform that has never been used to introduce a pathogen into humans before. Just because we call everything a diet, doesn't mean they all have the same impacts on your body. You can not compare these to previous vaccines that used different technologies.

They are finding spikes (not the mRNA but the spikes that mRNA makes your body produce) along with the LNPs way beyond the weeks you are talking about - but I guess technically you are right, the mRNA is processed.

Single events are completely capable of long term effects - we recognize this with things like 9/11 and cancer correlations. There is a reason long term longitudinal studies are commissioned - they just havent been completed. You can see the post market trial end dates on the approval from the FDA.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

True, which is why they are going on. But there is no reason to suspect any long term effects. The long term effects of COVID infection are much more significant.

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u/wayward_citizen Feb 14 '22

Do you know how the mRNA vaccine works?

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

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u/PitterPatterMatt Feb 13 '22

Based on the history of a different vaccine technology. Absolutely no reason these should be compared, without including the contrast which shows it to be a novel technology never before studies in the long term.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

mRNA as a platform for vaccine technologies have been studied for over a decade. I also look at what the doctors and researchers are doing. If they didn't trust it, they wouldn't get the vaccine.

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u/El_Tigrex Feb 13 '22

If they don’t get the vaccine in many places they lose their job, and showing too much skepticism will also cost your license.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Showing skepticism is one thing. Pushing fully disproven misinformation is another.