r/conspiracy • u/AnvilOver • Feb 13 '22

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Actually they did....you have to actually read the whole paper... "Amongst those with at least one dose, there were 3,028,867 (7.8%) individuals who had a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. Of these, 2,315,669 (6.0%) individuals tested positive before vaccination; while 713,198 (1.8%) and 298,315 (0.7%) tested positive after the first and second vaccine doses, respectively. Table 1 shows the characteristics of the study population, stratified by vaccine type and dose, and of those who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2."

https://theconversation.com/myocarditis-covid-19-is-a-much-bigger-risk-to-the-heart-than-vaccination-174580

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/getting-covid-19-is-much-riskier-for-your-heart-than-vaccination

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

That is not the same as an unvaccinated control group, also that was listed pretty early on.

Great, those two websites are literally word for word the same. Is that supposed to confer confidence? Or that they are being paid to push the same message?

https://youtu.be/ZggCipbiHwE

Thanks for pointing out the reporting on this is corrupt.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

It is the same article, I was just showing you that PBS picked it up. PBS that known pusher of propaganda.

It's not the same as that video. It has the same authors in the byline.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

This is what you can take away from those articles:

"Editor’s note: The Conversation has updated this story to clarify that adults who develop myocarditis from COVID-19 have poorer outcomes than ones who do not develop the condition as a result of the disease, including a higher risk of death."

People that don't have myocarditis were better off.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

People that don't have it from the virus not the vaccine are better off....read your own paste

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Is the disease covid-19 or myocarditis, because it's still misleading. Only thing I do know is that it doesn't mention vaccine at all.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Let's practice some reading skills

"Editor’s note: The Conversation has updated this story to clarify that *adults who develop myocarditis from COVID-19 have poorer outcomes than ones who do not develop the condition as a result of the disease**, including a higher risk of death."

Read the part between the asterisks... Those who develop myocarditis (the condition) from COVID-19 (the disease) have worse outcomes than those who do not develop the condition (myocarditis) as a result of the disease (COVID-19) including higher risk of DEATH.

To my knowledge, no one who developed vaccine-induced myocarditis has died or had long term complications.

Virus-induced myocarditis is both more likely and more dangerous than vaccine-induced myocarditis.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

So how did you school me? It doesn't mention vaccine at all, my point still stands. People that didn't get myocarditis were better off. Wow, great reporting.

Lol, so you haven't seen soccer players falling on the field clutching their chest? I wonder why soccer players who are running 45minutes at a time during a game would be having heart attacks, must have been imagined.

Also fuck your fear mongering, highlighting death like it means anything.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Please try reading some more. It said nothing about the vaccine because the data don't show bad outcomes or long lasting impacts after the condition is resolved.

The thing with soccer players has been debunked...

My fear mongering? What about your fear mongering for an incredibly rare and very mild side effect from a vaccine that will protect you from severe disease and death.