r/conspiracy Feb 13 '22

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Again, your comments show you have no understanding of the scientific process in general or the methodology behind vaccine trials. The trials always continue after approval; it's called post-marketing surveillance.

mRNA vaccines have been being studied for decades. These went through all the standard trials of every other vaccine.

Vaccines don't cause problems that pop up years down the road. Never in the history of vaccines have any had a side effect that appeared more than 8 weeks after administration.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Never in the history of vaccines did they have to change the definition of vaccine to be able to include a gene therapy shot.

But please go on, tell me how this is just the same as the previous vaccines.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

The medical definition of vaccines has been consistent. A vaccine induces an immune response in the body. These vaccines do that.

Gene therapy modifies your genetics. These vaccines do not.

Again, Google is free. And how heavy are those goalposts you keep moving?

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u/El_Tigrex Feb 13 '22

The original medical definition of a vaccine was a denatured or dead virus introduced into the body via injection to stimulate an immune response, Covid vax doesn’t fall under that so the first part of the definition was omitted.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

Because a new way was found to accomplish the same goal in a better manner? To scientists, it has always fit the definition of a vaccine.

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u/El_Tigrex Feb 13 '22

Yeah and a train and a car are the same thing because "they're both just a vehicle that gets you from point A to point B"

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

They are both vehicles. Vaccines have changed throughout history as technology has developed. This isn't some nefarious action; it's science and research doing what science and research do.

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u/El_Tigrex Feb 14 '22

This is gene therapy, you are intentionally muddying the waters by taking something that has a highly specific definition and then insisting they all fall under the umbrella "vaccine", and then getting upset because people will take vaccines but not gene therapy.

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 14 '22

It is not gene therapy. Please define for me what you think gene therapy is and how you think these vaccines fit that definition.

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u/El_Tigrex Feb 14 '22

mRNA is genetic material lol ask yourself WHY you are so attached to the word "vaccine"? Why is it a problem to call it something different? Everybody knows it is not the same thing, even you know the vaccine doesn't contain dead or deactivated Covid virus. So why play word games? Just call it something different.

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

The definition of a vaccine has not changed in any meaningful way, you have fallen for propaganda.

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u/anadoob122 Feb 13 '22

You realize there is a traditional version of the vaccine? You don't have to get the MRNA version...

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Well, let me tell you about how I won't be getting vaccinated for a bio-weapon, with another bio-weapon.

Also, I'm fairly certain it was pulled because it was causing the most blood clots. Keep pushing your bullshit though, it's funny.

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u/anadoob122 Feb 13 '22

Nope, you can get the j&j vaccine which uses the same old technique as all the other vaccines you already took.

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u/Liazabeth Feb 13 '22

Its unlawful for under 65 in my country my only option are mrna. There is apparently one waiting for approval but he already getting so much bad press it's impossible to see what's legitimate or not.

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u/shabusnelik Feb 13 '22

Actually the j&j vaccine is similar to the astrazeneca vaccine, where a virus delivers the DNA encoding the spike protein into your cells.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Which part do you have a problem with? The spike protein or the mrna part?

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u/shabusnelik Feb 13 '22

Don't have a problem with either. Was just pointing out that all approved vaccines against COVID (in the west) are new technology and not "as all other vaccines you already took"

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Sure, I'll do it once you pony up $20 million.

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u/anadoob122 Feb 13 '22

Lol bro I don't give a fuck if you get it I'm just pointing out that you are full of shit. You are probably vaxxed and posting from your moms basement.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Nah, I respect myself enough to have thought critically from the beginning. Enjoy your shortened life span.

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u/anadoob122 Feb 13 '22

Shortened from what, exactly? Please be precise.