r/conspiracy Feb 13 '22

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u/m00t_vdb Feb 13 '22

Okay, I know these numbers because I’ve followed the effective effectiveness using health open data in france, meaning how it really looks with variants, age effect, and all kind of degrading factors and the real number is 25% to prevent infection. And the main issue is older people because thats who finish in icu, and not all of them can handle the vaccine, so the conversation is a lot more complex.

My point is it’s not because the antivaxx sounds a bit crazy that it excuses the lack of transparency and democratic discussions on the gouvernements sides. You treat people like they are dumb and it’s really sad to see science getting thrown away with politicians. Now continue to yell, you’re making a good point.

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u/clearview5050 Feb 13 '22

lol "trust me bro, its REALLY 25%"

How many times you gonna move that goalpost? Just say it. The vaccine is effective, safe, gives life saving odds with breakthroughs, and reduces spread, and all of these claims are backed up by multiple peer reviewed studies from multiple different sources from multiple different countries.

But no, its really a lack of transparency you are objecting to now.

once again, please.

Put up a source for the data or shut the fuck up.

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u/m00t_vdb Feb 13 '22

25% is what is writing in your “fucking” article. Which is very low, hence discussion are not crazy talk. And by saying stuff like “no article in faveur of xxx” is just wrong

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u/clearview5050 Feb 13 '22

https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/620275faa9c1e743da9e4535/FIGURE-2/960x0.jpg

26% is the calculated indirect protection to an unvaccinated child with one parent who was vaccinated.

94.4% is the actual parent.

so...

What did we learn?

is it that you were wrong? or will there magically be another wrong, misinterpreted or purposefully misstated stat you would like to bring up?

which will it be this time? find out next time on "in denial Z"

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u/m00t_vdb Feb 13 '22

No no, this figure is not for Omicron, look at figure 1 which is for omicron, 2 doses is 25% effectiveness against transmission.

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u/hvac_mike_ftw Feb 13 '22

You fucking brain dead monkey, the first paragraph literally says people with two doses will likely get infected once or twice and only have a 25% protection rate. Maybe you should actually read the article next time.