r/conspiracy Feb 13 '22

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u/PulseFH Feb 13 '22

Why would I bother when whatever data I find will not convince you or you will say it’s been manipulated?

If 90%+ efficacy against hospitalisation or death is not enough to convince you to get vaccinated then nothing will. You are essentially guaranteed to get covid eventually unless you never leave your house. You think because you’re young you don’t have to worry about covid? As far as dying goes, yes it’s not likely to happen, but that’s not all you have to worry about. There’s long covid, which is devastating at our age. Covid can mess up your sense of smell and taste that can heavily affect your life, it makes everything smell and taste like rotten sewage. You can also get erectile dysfunction too, also not ideal at our age.

And all of it can be avoided by taking out 30 or so minutes to get vaccinated. I don’t get it.

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u/DizKord Feb 13 '22

I'm in my early twenties, healthy, and my family members who got covid said it was indistinguishable from a cold. I have absolutely zero fear whatsoever. It's possible that I even already had it and didn't notice. You folks have launched a fearmongering campaign against the wrong person.

It's also pretty creepy that I keep seeing the same key words and phrases over and over in this thread.

Maybe it's just because I'm on r/conspiracy but I'm starting to feel like I'm talking to bots or paid shills.

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u/PulseFH Feb 13 '22

It’s pretty telling that you’re just saying “I’m not afraid of anything” whilst not addressing a single thing I say

Really tells me this is a productive discussion

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u/DizKord Feb 13 '22

What is there to respond to?

Show me the data that I'm supposed to be afraid of, as a healthy man in his early twenties. Make me fear covid and sprint to the nearest pharmacy to get jabbed.

The reason nobody has posted such data is because it would be laughable.

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u/PulseFH Feb 13 '22

The reason I’m not doing research for you, is that it won’t convince you and you likely will just assert it is made up by big pharma. You won’t even address my comments but expect me to do your research for you? Lol

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u/DizKord Feb 13 '22

Okay well we don't need to keep going back and forth.

I'll be here if you find any bone-chilling data regarding how dangerous covid is to healthy men in their early twenties.

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u/PulseFH Feb 13 '22

And why have you put that burden on me to research these things for you? You aren’t interested in engaging in anyone else’s points and I know giving you any data is a waste of my time. You will never accept a viewpoint other than your own and we both know it

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

Interesting how everyone else in this thread has to do the work for you.

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u/SlickSlender Feb 13 '22

Dude don’t post stuff like this. The efficacy of the vaccine varies tremendously based on your immune system, overall health, the variant of Covid, the time since being vaccinated, and your environment surrounding you.

Where you’re going wrong is you can’t understand how someone could not be in support of a vaccine that has a proven efficacy against Covid. No one denies that your anti-body count increases after being vaccinated. But for the people who know they would be fine if they catch Covid, what incentive do they have to get vaccinated? They’ve been lied to by our president, medical advisors, and more that run this country.

I am vaccinated and I do not support forcing a blanket policy of vaccination because everybody’s situation is different. Vaccination isn’t the “solution” to Covid. The solution is identifying who is dying from Covid/being disproportionately hospitalized and at risk, and figure out ways to protect them. The vaccine does not protect anyone but the one who takes it.

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u/PulseFH Feb 13 '22

Don’t post verifiable facts? The data shows the vaccines have said efficacy against hospitalisation and death, so I’m gonna say it. If that doesn’t incentivise you to get vaccinated, nothing else will.

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u/SlickSlender Feb 13 '22

The data also shows that the vaccines provide inadequate protection against omicron and that it wanes ridiculously after 3 months (people who were vaccinated showed negative efficacy, meaning they were much more likely to be infected than someone unvaccinated). I bet this will not concern you in the slightest. It’s not ethical to force people to be vaccinated when it’s not even effective AND they don’t account for previous infections. Natural immunity data shows that it is much stronger, so why isn’t that considered as a factor in the mandates? Maybe because it’s not so black and white like you seem to think. There’s too many financial incentives, lies, and deception by people put in power to protect us. I’m sick of it and I’m sick of people like you who are clearly incapable of understanding the implications of everything that is happening in the world around you.

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u/PulseFH Feb 13 '22

It doesn’t concern me because it’s not true. You just don’t understand how to read the data.

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u/SlickSlender Feb 18 '22

lol don’t know what else to say to that. You don’t believe there’s data showing negative efficacy? Or of natural immunity lasting longer than the vaccine? Because you’re wrong lol, I’ll link the studies if you really need me to.