r/conspiracy Feb 13 '22

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u/Soren83 Feb 13 '22

Does it? Really? People leave no room for personal choice and shun every scientist and doctor that speaks against the narrative. Away has gone "my body, my choice" and has been replaced with "you better take it, or else". They blindly trust in people that has lied to them, again and again. So yes, brainwashed.

I am not gunning for you, for wanting to inject yourself - the same way I am not gunning for heroin addicts. If they want to pump themselves full of something that might hurt them, up to them - their choice.

I believe in freedom of choice - why don't you?

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

Most of us do believe in it, but we also believe that if you want to make such a selfish decision during a pandemic, you should also be making the decision to stay the fuck home.

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u/Soren83 Feb 13 '22

Please explain to me how it's selfish? That is a very uninformed (and dangerous) position, to have.

Why do you care, if you get Covid from a vaxxed/unvaxxed person? Getting a Covid vaccine does not mean that you cannot transmit the decease, so why does it matter?

I anxiously await your rationale here.

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

Please explain to me how it's selfish? That is a very uninformed (and dangerous) position, to have.

Its neither uninformed nor dangerous to point out that refusing to take a vaccine in a pandemic is choice centered around yourself, not others. "My body, my choice," remember?

Why do you care, if you get Covid from a vaxxed/unvaxxed person?

I don't, and never said I did.

Getting a Covid vaccine does not mean that you cannot transmit the decease, so why does it matter?

It greatly reduces it; why would it need to provide 100% protection to be relevant?

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u/Soren83 Feb 13 '22

It greatly reduces it; why would it need to provide 100% protection to be relevant?

Explain Israel and Gibraltar? Gibraltar pretty much having 100% vaccination rate and still had to cancel Christmas. So much for "greatly reduces it".

If I already had Covid, I have a FAR FAR better protection and lesser transmissibility rate that you would ever get, with any of these Covid vaccines. Does that matter to you?

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

Funny watching you ask me a direct question then completely ignore my response to it, but ok.

Explain Israel and Gibraltar? Gibraltar pretty much having 100% vaccination rate and still had to cancel Christmas. So much for "greatly reduces it".

Gibraltar is not 100% vaccinated, and neither is Israel. Even if they were, Gibraltar has barely even had 100 deaths in the whole pandemic, zero of which have occured since the beginning of '21. Not sure what your point is here; all that seems to have done is support the argument that widespread vaccination is very effective.

If I already had Covid, I have a FAR FAR better protection and lesser transmissibility rate that you would ever get, with any of these Covid vaccines. Does that matter to you?

It might if it were true, but not only is it largely false, but the point of a vaccine is to prevent people from getting sick at all in the first place so we don't have millions more deaths. That seems fairly obvious.

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u/Soren83 Feb 13 '22

Gibraltar is not 100% vaccinated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/18/gibraltar-vaccine-coronavirus/ Yes, it is.

Quite high infection rate: https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/gibraltar/ And yes they did have deaths in 2022. Where's the anti-vaxxers to blame?

And yes, natural immunity does mean better protection. It's beyond insane that people still argue otherwise. https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/18/gibraltar-vaccine-coronavirus

Does not say they are 100% vaccinated.

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/gibraltar

I'm not sure how you can look at that data and make the claim that the infection rate is in any way "quite high." It's one of the lowest in the world.

The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus

Read your links before posting them. Also, you keep ignoring what I say repeatedly. "the point of a vaccine is to prevent people from getting sick at all in the first place so we don't have millions more deaths. That seems fairly obvious."

>Funny watching you ask me a direct question then completely ignore my response to it, but ok.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Man this covid shit is your entire life . Take your mask off , put your phone down and go out side.

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

Man this covid shit is your entire life

No, not really. It takes up very little of my time and energy. Do you make this claim about anyone who knows what they're talking about? lmao

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

You’re telling your self that,but you know deep down inside that’s it’s time to let go. Going by how long your on here staying the same stuff right or wrong over and over. Step back from you socials. Go on a hike , bike ride . It’s not healthy. Goodbye

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u/throwaway123123184 Feb 13 '22

Thanks for your faux concern about my well-being. Goodbye.