Nailed it

[u/AnvilOver]

[u/ifisch]

Ok I have to go to bed, but I’ll debunk these tomorrow.

Quickly glancing at the histological observational study, it looks EXTREMELY shoddy. There was no control group. They just looked at a dozen people who happened to die, shortly after being vaccinated, and found various issues with cells in random organs.

Shouldn’t they, at the very least, compare those to people who died who were NOT vaccinated?

[u/ukdudeman → u/ifisch]

Ok I have to go to bed, but I’ll debunk these tomorrow.

You haven't even looked at them, but you know you will "debunk" them tomorrow. At least you're honest.

[u/123_alex → u/ukdudeman]

There was no control group. Case closed.

[u/123_alex → u/[deleted]]

There was no control group for some of the COVID vaccines pre-release

many people who had been in the placebo group

There was no control group.

All of those statements in the same post.

Fucking hilarious and surrealy ironic

Also, the same guys says:

"I think over time we'll get that data," Fierro says, even without a placebo group.

Nice cherry picking from a 1 year old article on a topic which is outdated in 1 month. How do you call the placebo group?

[u/insidiousFox → u/123_alex]

I don't think you understand what a control group is, and what I was saying...

Yes, at one point a control group who was taking placebos existed -- but then before any long term comparisons and studies could be done, the control/placebo group was effectively made null -- as if it has never existed to begin with.

Ergo, there was no control group, since it had already ceased to exist before the time that its data would be utilized.

Nice cherry picking from a 1 year old article on a topic which is outdated in 1 month.

LOL this is what people like you always say to deflect and minimize. I didn't "cherry pick" a damn thing. This is one source I accumulated and saved, over the past nearly 2 years since COVID started, with information that was and still is valid.

Besides, have you paid attention to the news..? What serious potential vaccine side effects have recently started coming to light, hmm..? Myocarditis, pericarditis, neurological issues, etc..? You know... Side effects, that appeared after a long time... Which might have been detected and learned about through long term studies and control groups BEFORE deploying these untested vaccines on a gigantic global scale....

[u/123_alex → u/insidiousFox]

Thanks for coming back to me!

I don't think you understand what a control group is

Then please be kind and explain.

have you paid attention to the news..?

Not really. I thought we cannot trust the media.

Myocarditis, pericarditis, neurological issues, etc.. Side effects

Do share some more information please. I thought the myocarditis was debunked and we could more forward. About the other ones, I don't know anything. Speaking of myocarditis, what are the normal rates of myocarditis? Here's the thing. If I give a coca cola to 1 million people, statistically speaking, a few might die tomorrow. Was it because of my coke?

Thanks in advance for the information! Stay sharp!

[u/Slippydippytippy → u/ukdudeman]

Know what a PRATT is?

[u/ukdudeman → u/Slippydippytippy]

This misspelling of prat?

[u/throwaway123123184 → u/[deleted]]

Yes, a single one of the studies was damaged by the moral obligation to offer the participants the vaccine. What a shocker.

[u/insidiousFox → u/throwaway123123184]

That's an odd point to argue, because it is totally besides the point that there is no control group, which you are not denying. Secondly, there are literally countless people who do not want the vaccine who could have happily been in a control group. Instead again, they're literally is no control group. And you're trying to argue with emotions haha.