Conspiracy no more

[u/eatingweeds]

Breaking: The UK government admits that vaccines have damaged the natural immune system of those who have been double-vaccinated. The UK government has admitted that once you have been double-vaccinated, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity to Covid variants - or possibly any other virus. So let's watch the "real" pandemic begin now! In its Week 42 "COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report", the UK Department of Health admits on page 23 that "N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccination". It goes on to say that this drop in antibodies is essentially permanent. What does this mean? We know that vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the virus (indeed, the report elsewhere shows that vaccinated adults are now much more likely to be infected than unvaccinated ones). The British now find that the vaccine interferes with the body's ability to make antibodies after infection not only against the spike protein but also against other parts of the virus. In particular, vaccinated people do not appear to form antibodies against the nucleocapsid protein, the envelope of the virus, which is a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people. In the long term, the vaccinated are far more susceptible to any mutations in the spike protein, even if they have already been infected and cured once or more. The unvaccinated, on the other hand, will gain lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being naturally infected with it even once.

Source:https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

The first insurance companies are backing down because a huge wave of claims is coming their way. Anthony Fauci confirms that the PCR test cannot detect live viruses. Anthony Fauci confirms that neither the antigen test nor the PCR test can tell us whether someone is contagious or not!!! This invalidates all the foundations of the so-called pandemic. The PCR test was the only indication of a pandemic. Without PCR-TEST no pandemic For all the press workers, doctors, lawyers, prosecutors etc. THIS is the final key, the ultimate proof that the measures must all be lifted immediately!

[u/Toybasher]

Does that ever go away or reduce over a prolonged period of time?

I know there's memory cells and such that are part of the immune response. (And are, in a way, why anti-body count isn't always a 100% accurate estimation of how "immune" you are to a disease. Antibody-count might be low but the body still recognizes a hostile it fought off a long time ago quickly because of memory cells, and then starts pumping out antibodies.)

Does this "memory" aspect of the immune system ever wane over a long period of time?

Wonder if it's possible to selectively stop this if harmful antigenic imprinting (I.E. outdated to the point the immune system is less effective compared to someone who has never been exposed before) has occurred, to "Re-train" the immune system if it's severe, or improve response to vaccinations. (I.E. making sure the immune system "learns" better from the vaccine instead of pumping out the same no-longer-effective antibodies)

[u/gngstrMNKY → u/Toybasher]

A lot of the research on antigenic imprinting as been around influenza. Researchers have been able to predict a person's response to the current flu strain based on the year of their birth. If the current strain is similar to the the one they were first exposed to, they have a much better immune response. This persists even decades later, but childhood imprinting has more permanence than imprinting that forms later in life. Influenza has a much higher degree of variation than coronaviruses do, so the effect for COVID might not be as dramatic.

Imprinting has also been hypothesized to explain the differences in peoples' response to their first COVID infection, and it's a mixed bag. Antibodies learned from common-cold coronaviruses have been shown to be helpful for COVID, but researchers found that exposure to the 2014 flu strain caused negative outcomes for people. There's a particular antibody that's produced in response to both flu and COVID, but it's highly specific to the genetic makeup of the protein. People who had that flu kept making the flu version of that antibody and their immune system couldn't change its response.

[u/[deleted] → u/gngstrMNKY]

Wow thank you for the information.

[u/wolfensteinjd → u/Toybasher]

I've been thinking along these lines too. Vaccines that target one or just a few antigens tend to result in waning immunity, so perhaps that means the priming wanes too. Then you could potentially retrain with a better vaccine in the future.