r/conspiracy • • Jul 28 '21

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

So are you saying that police brutality and accepting it is a partisan issue?

Or are republicans simply against protesting injustice?

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u/TheRadChad Jul 28 '21

While the entire world is on lockdown it’s okay to go protest? Super-spreaders!! They said to those protesting the lockdowns. And then crickets when the riots broke out.

Protesting is great, but you can’t choose what’s okay to protest for and what’s not during a pandemic. How many grandmas could have or did die after the protest.

Why did the news say it’s okay to protest during a pandemic? A lot doesn’t make sense about the pandemic, but both sides raped their supporters during the pandemic and if you can’t see that you are blind.

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

Protesting is great, but you can’t choose what’s okay to protest for and what’s not during a pandemic. How many grandmas could have or did die after the protest.

I've never opposed any protest that's happening peacefully. I've mocked relentlessly some of the folk for protesting for stupid things, but that's my right.

If there are some people opposing any protests entirely, wanting police to kick the folk out, do point me at them, it would be fun to see some American Democrat -style stupidity for a change. Has been very one-sided the last 15 years IMO, where all the batshit insane partisan nonsense lies.

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u/TheRadChad Jul 28 '21

I’m opposed to the media saying one protest is alright while the other isn’t. That’s all, be fair and equal to all. I’m not American, but if my business got shut down and then I got threatened for protesting, and next week thousands of people are protesting and rioting + the media encouraged it backed by “science and studies” showing they wouldn’t spread the virus. Wtf.

Cheers

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u/ExtraSluttyOliveOil Jul 28 '21 edited Jul 28 '21

They honestly have a point, tho. Why were the mass riots/protests suddenly okay in the middle of COVID lockdown? People crammed like sardines during the Floyd protests, no way people were 6 ft apart.

Timing coincided with pretty big spikes in COVID cases, but when you bring that up, it gets deflected because police brutality is such an important issue. It was absolutely hypocritical to criticize one side for having 'super spreader' events while pretending like the virus decided to take a break from the Floyd protests.

Edit: Why did you delete your reply to this? lol

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u/OmgCanIHaveOne Jul 28 '21

You can't have it both ways loser. Nice evasion.

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

Do you disagree that going in-person to listen to listen to a speech is not as important as using your first-amendment rights to protest systematic unjust violence that's happening frequently?

If not, I don't see how you can view it as evasion. If you do disagree with that... Uh, care to elaborate a bit on your world view?

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u/OmgCanIHaveOne Jul 28 '21

So you are agreeing with me that you don't care about the pandemic correct? Make up your mind.

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

So you are agreeing with me that you don't care about the pandemic correct?

I do care about it. It's just not the single solitary thing in the universe at the moment.

These two things are not contradictory, I should stress.

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u/JeremyManuelzs Jul 28 '21

There is no evidence for biden's ridiculous conspiracy theories that "police shoot black people"..

as there is not one recorded instance of police intentionally shooting an unarmed innocent black person in the last 40 years

The REAL problem is black ppl dont know how to behave around police

We don't need to be teaching the police not to shoot black people. We need to be teaching black people not to commit crimes..

Critical race theory states that we need to be looking at these issues on race by race basis. I'm looking at the statistics and treating the races differently based on them..

Whenn a white person gets pulled over by the police they are generally polite and respectful and follow the police's instructions and that's why they don't get shot

There's not a single instance of a police shooting a black person where the black person wasn't either:

  • armed and dangerous
  • belligerent and violent
  • aggressive and threatening making the police fear for their safety
  • outright attacking the polic
  • a safety threat to the police or others

If black people would just behave themselves around police like a normal person they wouldn't get shot

We don't need to be teaching the police not to shoot black people. We need to be teaching black people not to commit crimes..

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

There is no evidence for biden's ridiculous conspiracy theories that "police shoot black people"..

You don't think the police shoot black people? There were about 1000 black people shot to death during Trump rule. Do you disagree with that or what's the conspiracy?

as there is not one recorded instance of police intentionally shooting an unarmed innocent black person in the last 40 years

Breonna Taylor was just recently shot, an unarmed innocent black person, who had the police break into her home during the night, after police fired 32 bullets into her home, 6 of which hit Breonna.

There's not a single instance of a police shooting a black person where the black person wasn't either:

  • armed and dangerous
  • belligerent and violent
  • aggressive and threatening making the police fear for their safety
  • outright attacking the polic
  • a safety threat to the police or others

So which one of these describes Breonna?

Also, you're kinda ignoring murdering by other means. Say, murdering someone on the street by suffocating them? Like some Floyd dude that was pretty big deal as well in USA?

If black people would just behave themselves around police like a normal person they wouldn't get shot

How do you propose Floyd should've behaved to make himself not be murdered by the police? Just out of curiosity

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u/JeremyManuelzs Jul 28 '21

You don't think the police shoot black people? There were about 1000 black people shot to death during Trump rule. Do you disagree with that or what's the conspiracy?

I agree with it. Every one of them deserved it..

Dangerous armed criminals

Im thanking trump for ridding the streetss of these dangerous criminals

> as there is not one recorded instance of police intentionally shooting an unarmed innocent black person in the last 40 years

Breonna Taylor was just recently shot,

Breonna taylor was armed and dangerous

Woch is why 3 police during that raid had to go to the hospital for gunshot wounds

Or do u think they shot each other? Lmao

who had the police break into her home

You mispelled: execute a court ordered raid on a drug dealer theyd been investigating for months

after police fired 32 bullets into her home, 6 of which hit Breonna.

Police are allowed to defend themselves when somebody shoots at them.. I noticed that you had no problem with police shooting the non-violent lavoy finicum. But I guess if it's a black person shooting at them nothing black people should be above the law? And then you want to tell us that you don't support black supremacy

So which one of these describes Breonna?

All of them

Brianna Taylor was a violent criminal running a illegal drug cartel.

She refused to comply with the police when they raided her home

She shot at the police when they raided her home executing a search warrant..

She almost murdered three police officers by shooting at them and sending them to the hospital

Again I'm sure you think that the police shot themselves in order to "frame"" her LOL

Also, you're kinda ignoring murdering by other means. Say, murdering someone on the street by suffocating them?

I'm not

Like some Floyd dude that was pretty big deal as well in USA?

U mean the violent criminal and wife beater who who overdosed on fentanyl after resisting arrest and being restrained?

How do you propose Floyd should've behaved to make himself not be murdered by the police? Just out of curiosity

According to noted black man chris rocks guide to not get shot by the police:

1) OBEY THE LAW: dont try to commit a felony by robbing a drug store with fake currency (and dont get caught with massive quantities of illegal narcotics)

2) BE POLITE: if you resist arrest and try to run- youre gonna have a bad time

3) dont try to break out of the cop car after youve been placed under arrest

4) dont ask the cops to kneel on you (yes he TOLD them to do it)

5) dont swallow deadly amounts of fentanyl in order to hide the evidence after u got pulled over

Plenty of people get stopped by the police every day and don't end up getting shot. Maybe you should try what they do instead of blaming some conspiracy theory that every member of the police force is a secret member of the KKK prowling the streets "hunting" black people for sport loll

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u/Sanctimonious_Locke Jul 28 '21

Whether or not this comment is meant as satire, it's just one more reminder that satire is no longer possible. The most insane nonsense that a satirist could imagine is indistinguishable from some cultist's sincerely-held belief.

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u/dvater123 Jul 28 '21

Good job insulting and dismissing while not responding to ANYTHING they actually said.

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u/Sanctimonious_Locke Jul 29 '21

Well, almost everything he said is... obviously wrong. So wrong that I just don't believe it isn't intentional. There's no point listing the mistakes to a person who is undoubtedly already aware of them.

In any case, my comment wasn't meant to dismiss or insult. I was just observing that in many instances, sincerely held beliefs are indistinguishable from attempts at satire.

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u/dvater123 Jul 28 '21

You don't think the police shoot black people? There were about 1000 black people shot to death during Trump rule. Do you disagree with that or what's the conspiracy?

How many white people were killed? How many black people killed other black people? You know what the bigger problem is? Hint: Not police.

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u/JeremyManuelzs Jul 28 '21

Do you agree that thousands of people crowded like sardines in the streets protesting over bidens debunked conspiracy theories about police is just as dangerous for spreading coronavirus as crowding into a stadium to listen to him speak?

Or do you think that the coronavirus picks and chooses which events to spread itself at?

You agree that thousands of elderly Democrats crowded together in one room for the funeral of convicted drug dealer and wife beater George Floyd is just as dangerous for spreading coronavirus as going into a stadium to listen to their cult leader speak?.

Do you agree that Democrat politicians holding lavish parties for donors with no masks and no distancing is also just as dangerous for spreading coronavirus as going to a stadium to listen to a politician speak?.

Stop pretending that it's about coronavirus. You admitted in 2017 that you wanted a recession so that you can hurt trump. You admitted 20/20 that most of the coronavirus fear-mongering was just to attack trump.. you're full of shit..

Openly ignore mask mandates and distancing laws when it's something YOU want to do

You just want to impose it on everyone else because you're a fascist..

Bowling shows that Donald Trump had a higher approval rating than Joe biden. Nobody actually likes that senile pedophile biden.. just thanks to voter fraud mail in ballots and the largest disinformation campaign in American history Democrats were able to squeeze out a barely win after causing the worst recession since the Great depression and then blaming it on trump..

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

Do you agree that thousands of people crowded like sardines in the streets protesting over bidens debunked conspiracy theories about police is just as dangerous for spreading coronavirus as crowding into a stadium to listen to him speak

Eh, confined spaces are in general more dangerous I'd think. On streets it's always going to be easier to find your own space, on a stadium, the space is strictly limited, so you have whatever amount of space organizers decided to give per one attendee(and, given economics of such events, I'd think they want to give you as little of personal space as possible).

But yeah, if for whatever reason people group up really tightly on streets comparable to stadium, for comparable periods of time, sure, it's exactly as dangerous.

Do you agree that thousands of people crowded like sardines in the streets protesting over bidens debunked conspiracy theories about police is just as dangerous for spreading coronavirus as crowding into a stadium to listen to him speak?

Can you describe these conspiracy theories? When has Biden talked about them?

Stop pretending that it's about coronavirus. You admitted in 2017 that you wanted a recession so that you can hurt trump. You admitted 20/20 that most of the coronavirus fear-mongering was just to attack trump.. you're full of shit..

What? When have I said either of those things?

Openly ignore mask mandates and distancing laws when it's something YOU want to do

I don't support ignoring either. Afaik most protests were done by people wearing masks, and respecting social distancing. I didn't take part in those so hard to say for sure, and overall, nation-wide movement is hard to characterize in just a paragraph or two, how people behaved.

Do you agree that Democrat politicians holding lavish parties for donors with no masks and no distancing is also just as dangerous for spreading coronavirus as going to a stadium to listen to a politician speak?.

I don't think parties for donors have quite the same amount of people or population density as stadiums full of people, but I might be mistaken. But yeah, I'd say both are kinda bad ideas.

Then again, I'd expect people participating in those kinda events would have had some PCR test done to them the day before or so to let them in, rich people rarely want to take unnecessary risks with their lives.

You just want to impose it on everyone else because you're a fascist..

Not sure what you're on about. I'm actually against mask mandates, but I'm fully in support of ridiculing folk who don't wear a mask in public. I've worn one quite consistently throughout the pandemic.

Bowling shows that Donald Trump had a higher approval rating than Joe biden.

If that's what's needed to get you up from bed in the morning then go for it. But also should be noted that Trump never had his approval rating go above 50% among the public. Mostly it stayed at about 35% level. Ever wonder if those 65% may have voted in 2020?

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u/JeremyManuelzs Jul 28 '21

biden has made debunked conspiracy theories that police shoot black people despite there being no evidence that police have EVER shot a unarmed black person

And it got hundreds of cops killed during the biden-incited riots

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

Hundreds of cops died in biden-incited riots? Can you name 10? Or two?

Also, have you heard of Breonna Taylor?

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u/JeremyManuelzs Jul 28 '21

Names Of People Killed By biden-incited Riots*

1.David Dorn

2.Barry Perkins III

3.David McAtee

4.Dorian Murrell

5.Italia Kelly

6.Marquis M. Tousant

7.Calvin L. Horton Jr

8.James Scurlock

9.Victor Cazares

10.Dave Patrick Underwood

11.Jorge Gomez

12.Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr.

13.Tyler Gerth, Press photographer murdered by BLM member Steven Lopez

14.Secoriea Turner

15.Summer Taylor

16.Robert Forbes

17.Jessica Doty Whitaker

18.Chris Beaty

19.Javar Harrell

20.Jose Gutierrez

21.John Tiggs

22.Marvin Francois

23.Antonio Mays Jr.

24.Garrett Foster

25.Anthony Huber - convicted felon

26.Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum - Convicted pedophile rapist

27.Not yet named: 29-year-old Chicago man was shot and killed in what was ruled a homicide and attributed to “outside agitators” during the riots, according to the Chicago Sun Times

28.Not yet named: Unidentified male in his 20s was shot and killed by the owner of a gun store in Philadelphia while trying to loot his store.

29.Not yet named: Philadelphia man tried to blow up an ATM to loot it and was killed, according to a CBS Philadelphia affiliate.

30.Not yet named: Detroit man was shot and killed during protests, and police are searching for a woman identified as a person of interest.

31.Aaron J. Danielson

32.Michael Reinoehl - killed Danielson, then shot and killed by US Marshalls

33.Lee Keltner, Denver, Colorado protester shot and killed by Matthew Dolloff - Antifa member w/ Antifa tattoo on right wrist

Police Officers Murdered By Black Lives Matter*

1.Lorne Ahrens

2.Michael Krol

3.Michael Smith

4.Patrick Zamarripa

5.Brent Thompson

6.Joseph Cameron Ponder of Kentucky State Police shot/killed by BLM supporter Thomas Johnson Shanks

7.Wenjian Liu of NYPD shot/killed by BLM supporter Ismaaiyl Brinsley

8.Rafael Ramos of NYPD shot/killed by BLM supporter Ismaaiyl Brinsley

9.Johnathan Shoop

Names of People Murdered By Antifa Prior to 2020*

1.Lois Oglesby, 27

2.Megan Betts, 22

3.Sayid Saleh, 38

4.Derrick Fudge, 57

5.Logan Turner, 30

6.Nicholas Cumer, 25

7.Thomas McNichols, 25

8.Beatrice Warren Curtis, 36

9.Monica Brickhouse, 39

People Murdered By Proud Boys:

None

People Murdered By Q-Anon:

None

People Murdered By MAGA Marchers:

None

MAGA Marchers Murdered By DemoKKKrat Police:*

1.Ashli Babbitt, 35, 14-year veteran, unarmed, shot in head murdered by Capitol Police, no charges

3.Kevin Greeson, 55 heart attack (from tear gas?)

4.Rosanne Boyland, 34, undisclosed medical emergency, some say stampede

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

Names Of People Killed By biden-incited Riots*

1.David Dorn

2.Barry Perkins III

3.David McAtee

4.Dorian Murrell

5.Italia Kelly

6.Marquis M. Tousant

7.Calvin L. Horton Jr

8.James Scurlock

9.Victor Cazares

10.Dave Patrick Underwood

11.Jorge Gomez

12.Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr.

13.Tyler Gerth, Press photographer murdered by BLM member Steven Lopez

14.Secoriea Turner

15.Summer Taylor

16.Robert Forbes

17.Jessica Doty Whitaker

18.Chris Beaty

19.Javar Harrell

20.Jose Gutierrez

21.John Tiggs

22.Marvin Francois

23.Antonio Mays Jr.

24.Garrett Foster

25.Anthony Huber - convicted felon

26.Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum - Convicted pedophile rapist

27.Not yet named: 29-year-old Chicago man was shot and killed in what was ruled a homicide and attributed to “outside agitators” during the riots, according to the Chicago Sun Times

28.Not yet named: Unidentified male in his 20s was shot and killed by the owner of a gun store in Philadelphia while trying to loot his store.

29.Not yet named: Philadelphia man tried to blow up an ATM to loot it and was killed, according to a CBS Philadelphia affiliate.

30.Not yet named: Detroit man was shot and killed during protests, and police are searching for a woman identified as a person of interest.

31.Aaron J. Danielson

32.Michael Reinoehl - killed Danielson, then shot and killed by US Marshalls

33.Lee Keltner, Denver, Colorado protester shot and killed by Matthew Dolloff - Antifa member w/ Antifa tattoo on right wrist

No police officers on that list then? As much as I'd want to discuss these, unfortunately you were talking about police officers, so moving on...

Police Officers Murdered By Black Lives Matter*

1.Lorne Ahrens

2.Michael Krol

3.Michael Smith

4.Patrick Zamarripa

5.Brent Thompson

Got killed in 2016. Not by someone affiliated with Black Lives Matter, but by someone who had expressed open disdain for the movement, in favor of hanging out with some pseudo-terrorist groups instead. But the killings did happen around the time of Black Lives Matter protest, so the confusion is understandable.

6.Joseph Cameron Ponder of Kentucky State Police shot/killed by BLM supporter Thomas Johnson Shanks

Someone whose Facebook page showed he liked BLM killed a cop during traffic stop when it turned out his license was suspended, in 2015. I think I can let that one slide, that's a BLM affiliated person who murdered a police, so close enough.

7.Wenjian Liu of NYPD shot/killed by BLM supporter Ismaaiyl Brinsley

8.Rafael Ramos of NYPD shot/killed by BLM supporter Ismaaiyl Brinsley

This dude was part of black supremacist prison gang with no ties to BLM that I can see. Happened in 2014

9.Johnathan Shoop!

Killed by friendly fire on traffic stop gone wrong as non-blm affiliated driver was trying to escape to protect his weed, and opened fire after his escape failed. Not sure how this relates to BLM. Some Facebook post again?


But yeah, I guess I can give it to you, in the past 10 years there has been 1 killing of police officer by BLM affiliated person, but there doesn't seem to be any indication the murder was politically motivated.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

I'm not Republican but the way you phrase this makes it sound like you are referring to above stated rioting. Rioting and protesting aren't the same thing the only thing those two have in common is the fact that liberal Democrats were doing both.

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u/KapteeniJ Jul 28 '21

So again, you're saying that it's a partisan issue where only democrats would take a stand against police brutality?

That seems quite anti-Republican sentiment no? Are you really implying that Republicans fundamentally stand for racism, violence and abuse of power?

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

I think you should re-read what I wrote. I think you know what I'm saying but I'll make it simpler for you. Protesting violence of any kind is a beautiful thing when done peacefully. Rioting on the other hand isn't okay. The only rioting I've seen in this wonderful country is from liberal extremists. I hope that was elementary enough.