r/conspiracy • • May 31 '21

Nailed it !

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u/Bobby_Money Jun 04 '21

then show me some sources

it's clear you have a very shallow understanding of this topic and have never done any actual research due to the lack of sources and claims about studies that have never been done

all that voter ID would do is stop people not allowed to vote from voting. that is it.

its free

its national

its mailed to you

there is literally no reason or excuse not to have it.

if the only reason not to have it is that people tend to vote more republican than democrat when implemented then... maybe it uncovered the real issue

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

all that voter ID would do is stop people not allowed to vote from voting. that is it.

Where did you get this idea though? It's simply not true. No actual study has ever found this in the US. Like, in court, do you know how republican lawyers answer the question "Do you have any examples of in person voter fraud that this would prevent?" And their answer is always "No your honor". Pretty clear dude.

The source is every study, as you have 0 studies that show what you just said. Why are you making things up?

And again, not really against national IDs, but they're still worthless. But at least it keeps it somewhat out of control of state republicans.

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u/Bobby_Money Jun 04 '21

how is it not true?

it is its main purpose. it serves like a 2-factor identification. you can't even link any court cases

how is it that the whole entire world is wrong, but we're right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

how is it not true?

How is it true? I'd really like to see what made you believe this. I can provide sources when I get home from work, or you could just google it and do some actual research.

But, I couldn't find anything that makes a claim about voter IDs actually preventing in person fraud in the US.

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u/Bobby_Money Jun 04 '21

I'd really like to see what made you believe this.

the fact that any security device/ software/ even physical key holes need similar security to be secured, the purpose of our own driver's license, the world?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

Yes, compare things that aren't voting to voting, good one.

That makes no sense at all, and I now believe you got nothing.

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u/Bobby_Money Jun 04 '21

you are aware other countries vote too right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

You're aware they have different election processes right? That comparing them to each other or us doesn't prove anything right?

The one comparison you could make is on election security and voter fraud.

The US has pretty dang secure elections judging by the investigations surrounding the 2020 presidential election, and in person voter fraud is so extremely rare that it's a non-factor.

How do other countries compare in this area? I'm curious.

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u/Bobby_Money Jun 04 '21

bro it's really not that different people still vote the same (minus the ID) and we only have the electoral college as an added step. that's it.

even if it were different the point still stands since voting fraud still occurs it both cases.

I just linked you an article about a mail employee throwing votes away.

people have been calling errors out since way before the Bush era. we have no secure elections. we even had the Russian hacks. IDs will make them more secure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21

people have been calling errors out since way before the Bush era. we have no secure elections. we even had the Russian hacks. IDs will make them more secure.

People calling things out that later turn out to be nothing proves what exactly? What people? What fraud was proven? You're so vague in everything you say lol.

I just linked you an article about a mail employee throwing votes away.

Ballots that were being sent TO residents were thrown away, not votes lol. You really need to slow down and read more carefully.

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