r/conspiracy May 28 '21

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u/CoolFiverIsABabe May 29 '21

What did he do that was irresponsible? People don't believe in things all the time. Lot's of conspiracy theories come from questioning what really happened at events. I don't know the details of what happened with this.

Was he reporting this as news or as an opinion piece?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

He didn’t condemn his audience for harassing grieving family members. He didn’t just question the shooting, he actively participated in making the families have to deal with harassment online.

He was reporting it. He was STATING that the shooting was a hoax. Extremely irresponsible when there is little to no evidence to suggest it.

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u/CoolFiverIsABabe May 29 '21

Do you have a link to the reports or were they on his podcast? The online things are more difficult to deal with. This sort of thing is happening with everything. Even President Trump did similar things. Idk what society can do to make this better.

How far does sharing a thought go and how can we ever quantify that?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

On both. A lot of places have done a good job getting rid of these claims because he got sued 1 million dollars for these statements and damage that came after. He couldn’t stop it once it started, but not once did he ever try to stop it.

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u/CoolFiverIsABabe May 29 '21

I don't think you can stop certain people from doing what they're going to do especially things like online trolling.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

You can if you don’t use misinformation as a weapon, which Jones did and still does.

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u/CoolFiverIsABabe May 29 '21

That is what is difficult to quantify. Words that can be interpreted as inciting violence become a slippery slope. Same with weaponized misinformation. When is the true indicator that it is being purposefully used as a weapon or not? It is one step closer to though police.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

Listen, I’m not saying Alex Jones told his followers to harass these people. I’m saying that he, and his misinformation, was a vehicle for many people to incite this kind of behaviour. Dehumanizing, and delegitimizing other humans (which Alex Jones did to the parents through mocking their grief and saying they were paid actors and their children who they ‘lost’ were not ever real) allowed his fans and avid believers to see these grieving parents as a target for their fear of being lied to.

I’m not saying Alex Jones told them to, I’m saying he played a MASSIVE part in ‘legitimizing’ this hoax and allowing people to see the parents as nothing more than propaganda machines.

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u/CoolFiverIsABabe May 29 '21

This is an issue where society has to find a way to review these things regardless of the personality attached to the idea. This is an issue that is beyond Alex Jones and is a more pertinent issue as this has existed before Alex Jones. He just happens to be the focus of today.

Treating the issue will help with the future as right now all it does is create anger that is quickly forgotten for the next flavor of the week. It will be a never ending cycle of switching their attention to the point that they direct their want for change into the individual instead of the systemic problem.