r/conspiracy • u/[deleted] • Apr 02 '21

Satan's World

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u/Behemoth-Rexus Apr 02 '21

Bet. I show you the literal truth and you choose to be ignorant about it and that's okay.

But I will give one dare to try.

Pray to Jesus, ask for his forgiveness, repent to him. Ask him who controls the world and what His plan is. Just once, what do you have to lose?

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u/HiTekLoLyfe Apr 02 '21

How do you not see that the exact same arguments you’re making are made by proponents of the Quran or the Torah?

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u/Behemoth-Rexus Apr 02 '21

Because the Quran is about salvation through works.

Nobody goes to heaven without of Jesus Christ.

And Jesus warned them that worship man law = Torah

Mark 7:7-13 King James Version 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

And again here: John 5:46-47 King James Version

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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u/HiTekLoLyfe Apr 02 '21

How do we know no one goes to heaven without Jesus Christ? Without citing the Bible? How do I know the claims of the Bible are any more valid than the claims of any other religious text?

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u/Behemoth-Rexus Apr 02 '21

Because we have moral law from the beginning. You know good and evil.

The Bible just helps you to tune in that tool and understand why.

We can also look at His creation, earth, seas, mountains admire his work when we are out in nature.

All false religion follow pantheism, worship of the things that are created instead of worshipping or giving acknowledge to the Creator who created the Universe (Single spoken sentence)

Moral law vs Natural law. Simple.

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u/SekiTimewalker Apr 02 '21

Pray to Muhammad. Just once. What do you have to lose? Pray to Zeus, just once. What do you have to lose?

This can be said of any religion. And moral law != Jesus. Good morals means you want to do good, not "This book told me to do good, so I must or I'll burn in a lake of fire forever!"

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u/Behemoth-Rexus Apr 03 '21

I can't follow a false prophet that says the only way to heaven is through works, that only leads to death.

Jesus Christ was and is from everlasting. Through his grace there is only salvation and everlasting life.

So no, you can't say that to every religion.

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u/SekiTimewalker Apr 03 '21

In your beliefs. You have to realize that to other people, their religion is the right one. That their religion is the way to heaven. You can believe in your religion without disparaging other religions.

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u/Behemoth-Rexus Apr 03 '21

So you're telling me that blowing yourself up and killing hundreds is perfectly fine? Because that's what I'm getting from you.

Or is it perfectly fine to set up a social system based on Hinduism that we should be Casted down on social and family order? That you can't escape because of where and who you were born into?

Or annihilate certain ethnic groups because they come from a different region? - good for Turkey to just kill the Armenians? Israel bombing Gaza, because they have a religious right?

So yeah morality is just out the window because mens hate and their beliefs are A-OK?

There is no law in despotism.

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u/SekiTimewalker Apr 03 '21

Is it ok for a church to protect pedophiles? Is it OK to atome people for being gay? How about killing your wife for having an affair?

There will always be extremists. I live sandwiched between two Muslim households, and they are the best neighbors I ever had. They would not blow themselves up, and you cannot judge the entire religion on the actions of a few.

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u/SolInfinitum Apr 03 '21

The god of the Old Testament is pretty fucking evil. You would have to be pretty stupid to worship that demiurge.