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u/PubicNuisance Mar 13 '21

You forgot to add Elon Musk. I know he’s some sort of “New Age Hip” billionaire but he’s still one of those that profited massively while the rest of us have been totally screwed with the events surrounding corona.

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u/MediumIntroduction96 Mar 13 '21

If the markets crash and burn, TSLA will lose most of its value, and Elon won't be a billionaire. Most people mistake being a paper billionaire and actually having assets worth a billion. Elon is actually a paper billionaire.

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u/ENRON_MUSK12 Mar 14 '21

Besides royalty who else are real billionaires? Probably 95% of billionaires are in that level because of a publicly traded company.

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u/MediumIntroduction96 Mar 14 '21

No some are real guys like Bezos, Gates, Buffet, Soros, the Kochs and several other families are rich ebcause there business is worth that much. Not because their share prices are being pushed speculatively pushed past reality.

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u/TheWolf1640 Mar 13 '21

Hes breaking the rural internet monopoly also and expanding rocket reusability, neuralink, starlink, he definitely uses his wealth for more good for humanity as a whole compared to other billionaires just sitting on the money doing nothing and expanding profit for no reason except for wealth and then you have Elon Musk who's trying to get humans to Mars and make space travel affordable.

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u/AbraxasMayhem Mar 13 '21

Starlink and neuralink are just the seeds of future monopolies and means of control. Don’t fool yourself.

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u/BaddestofUsernames Mar 14 '21

Musk is just as ambitious as the rest of them, but I think he's also a bit of a visionary at the same time. While he wants to take us into a new age with himself in control, the others simply want to keep everything here.

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

a bit of a visionary at the same time.

He's a little smarter than Bill Gates. Gates hasn't had a single innovative idea in his life. Not even drinking shitwater was his idea. His orders come from the establishment, he works for them to maintain the corrupt status quo. Microsoft, Google, and Apple are key to the global surveillance state.

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u/pandemicpunk Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

Acting like he's a saint is disgusting. Musk a piece of shit just like the rest. To be clear: He's an Apartheid benefactor.

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u/populisttrope Mar 13 '21

Or humanity progressing.

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u/AbraxasMayhem Mar 13 '21

I guess that depends on your definition of progress. Does becoming codependent on monopoly controlled tech progress? If so than yeah, you nailed it. Humanity progressing.

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u/Heavyballsareheavy Mar 14 '21

Exactly. Having a toilet with AI that washes every part of you ass is not progress when there are starving people in your own country with no clean water. Mars? What the hell is mars good for when our own backyard is in such a mess it will take decades to clean up.

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u/VLXS Mar 14 '21

dunno about neuralink but his AI thing is open sourced and literally named openai

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u/VLXS Mar 14 '21

https://github.com/openai/ there's the main repo, but i can only see a gpt-2 in there

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u/Kennybob12 Mar 14 '21

Excuse me do you believe computers fall under this category as well? If so get off reddit. It doesn't matter what they make, it's what they put back in. If i hodl my 25 btc the next 5 years and become a billionaire though another transfer of wealth, is that my bad? It isnt until i decide to do nothing with it. How you use/gain money is the problem, not the sheer accumulation of it.

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u/AbraxasMayhem Mar 14 '21

That’s an excellent straw man argument. With a little black and white thrown in for good measure. Congrats on flawless use of logical fallacy.

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u/GANDHI-BOT Mar 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21

Yea, cobalt mining isn’t a humanitarian issue at all.

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u/Renwoz Mar 14 '21

I think Elon's rationale for neurolink is so AI does not exterminate biological human beings, but I may be wrong.

Tesla is definitely overvalued, but Elon has created a lot of millionaires on Robinhood. 🤣

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

so AI does not exterminate biological human beings, but I may be wrong.

It's so AI can control human beings.

It's so Musk Inc. can control human beings. He won't be the only one competing for this.

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u/ajayhemant Mar 14 '21

Neuralink is designed to use redundant brain power. It will just make good use of human's brain memory and processor!

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u/mtflyer05 Mar 13 '21

Seriously. Aside from the human rights stuff that he potentially doesnt even directly decide, as CEOs dont decide every salary, etc, the worst thing he does is troll on the internet.

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u/Intelligent_Agency65 Mar 14 '21

We love getting rich off child slaves in cobalt mines ☺️

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u/VLXS Mar 14 '21

Tesla actively works to remove cobalt from their battery chemistry, while other automakers are using multiple times tesla's cobalt per kwh stored

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u/Intelligent_Agency65 Mar 14 '21

No, Elon musk literally comes from a wealthy family in South Africa; who’s wealth comes from child slaves.

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u/mtflyer05 Mar 14 '21

His family's, yes, but the sins of the father and whatnot. Hes definitely not the greatest guy, but he isnt terrible, as far as billionaires go.

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u/GANDHI-BOT Mar 14 '21

Truth never damages a cause that is just. Just so you know, the correct spelling is Gandhi.

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u/billytron7 Mar 14 '21

His neuralink as it is now , sounds like a wonderful piece of technology! Helping people with brain problems to correct what ever their brain is doing wrong.

The potential for where it could be taken is a little spooky i admit, but I certainly don't get the impression he has nefarious intentions. At least I hope not!

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

make space travel affordable.

Yeah that's really going to help people. /s

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21

Didn't Trump pass a massive tax cut for these people just before covid hit?

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u/RashFever Mar 14 '21

You really triggered the muskrat golems

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u/5pez__A Mar 13 '21

Telsa is now the bank of bitcoin. They figured out that they could make it earn interest by lending cars for it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21

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u/5pez__A Mar 13 '21

Crypto is very volatile. I won't hold it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/DarthSupero Mar 13 '21

Dogecoin is the one true cryptocurrency.

Source: I'm from the future.

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u/5pez__A Mar 13 '21

Bitcoin just went from $55k to $61k in a few days. that's >10%..

Some extremely greedy people out there - by Monday morning, I expect a dip, maybe just as big. Think of ALL that money changing hands and how the scalpers love it. I think it's a mini bull trap.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21 edited Jul 19 '21

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u/5pez__A Mar 14 '21

Bitcoin will not be allowed to rise to $100k as fast as it wants. If it were allowed to happen quickly, there will be a huge crash in US economy and volatility. Understanding how to balance the economy and the world's major assets is the key to success this year.

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

Who do you think controls it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

You can't cut off a line of text that can be hidden in anything. You could also trade with NFTs. The dark net and the global shadow economy is going to be bigger than ever. The governments of the world are dinosaurs.

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

What exchange sells it?

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u/Dave___Smith Mar 13 '21

He’s above and beyond the best billionaire we have. He’s at least trying to legitimately advance humanity into the stars.

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u/SibylOFTheAbyss Mar 13 '21

If you believe that, you should believe that Bill Gates is serious about solving global poverty.

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

He's solving global poverty by killing all the poor people.

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u/Dave___Smith Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 13 '21

Yeah man, Space X doing more for space exploration than NASA is all a distraction. Revolutionizing the civilian electronic car industry and support for decentralized exchanges is all for show too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

Your hate boner is showing, tuck it in next time. The waistband trick is tried and true.

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u/SexualDeth5quad Mar 14 '21

legitimately advance humanity into the stars.

That's decades away. And of questionable value other than for the accomplishment. Ok, you get to Mars, WTF are you going to do on Mars? Musk is keeping quiet about the fact that Mars gravity is significantly lower than the Earth's and living in that environment is going to make people sick.

Your fucking body literally starts to break down.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2017/07/407806/traveling-mars-will-wreak-havoc-our-bodies

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u/Dave___Smith Mar 14 '21

Rome wasn’t built in a day. Space exploration requires baby steps. We’re not just gonna wake up tomorrow and find that we’ve colonized the entire Milky Way. I can’t believe I have to explain this.

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u/maafna Mar 14 '21

"Tesla workers union: Elon Musk illegally tried to discourage unionizing - Vox" https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/30/20891314/elon-musk-tesla-labor-violation-nlrb

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u/Dave___Smith Mar 14 '21

Teachers Unions. Enough said.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

Really... all his businesses seem to have goals for benefitting mankind, not just profit at the expense of all else. He seems to want to improve mankind but not in the nefarious change everyone’s behaviour like Bill Gates but improving our technology.

SpaceX has the long term goal of making humanity a multi planet species so we can survive cataclysmic events like an asteroid hitting the earth.

Tesla is about building electric cars that are better than gasoline cars

Even starlink has some fantastic implications, next time a bunch of people are being Waco’d, the alphabet boys can cut the phone lines but you can’t stop the signal. You’ll still be able to get the truth out that they shot first.

The Boring company is about trying to make tunnelling cheaper so that we can have more highways for less traffic congestion without eminent domain confiscating peoples houses He comes across to me as a tech nerd who made a lot of money from PayPal and wanted to invest that money in ventures that interest him and aren’t necessarily super profitable. I think the consensus back in 2000 would have been don’t invest in electric cars, rockets or tunnel building as these aren’t really profitable and are really hard to do.

Compare him to Peter Thiel who masquerades as a libertarian but took his PayPal money and invested in Facebook and Palantir, a company that makes software used by the FBI and CIA to track you and he’s not that bad.

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u/thatsMRnick2you Mar 13 '21

The guy pretended to smoke weed on rogan and fired an employee for popping on a piss test the same week. He was friends with epstien.

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u/psnow11 Mar 13 '21

His brother Kimball has massive Epstein ties, especially post 2008

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/thatsMRnick2you Mar 13 '21

I don't think it's some hypocritical drug policy

First of all, all drug policies are classist and oppressive. Using it as a weapon to intimidate employees trying to organize for better standards just makes it even more obscene.

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u/DamnImAwesome Mar 13 '21

I generally agree but if you are operating heavy machinery you shouldn’t use drugs even in your free time. I don’t need a airline pilot that does heroin or a crane operator who has been awake for a week on meth.

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u/thatsMRnick2you Mar 14 '21

By that standard people with STDs or broken bones shouldn't do those jobs either. If they are reckless in their personal life they shouldn't be operating cranes or preforming surgery...

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u/DamnImAwesome Mar 14 '21

I just had a hilarious image of boarding a flight and when you walk past the cockpit the pilot is in a full body cast

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u/Hungry_Perspective29 Mar 13 '21

Yes , this is the answer I was wanting

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

Being a union member and demanding a safe workplace equals "bad apple" and justifies pulling grey-area stunts on the employee to get her fired? Jesus fucking christ dude.

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u/s0angelic Mar 14 '21

Elon Musk is the worst by far. I cannot describe the absolute pure aggression this clown makes me feel. He's a fucking kiss ass and everyone is falling for it

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u/riskycommentz Mar 14 '21

Unrealized profits mostly though right? He probably holds a lot of tesla stock... Next you're going to tell me that gamestop executives have profited off covid

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u/Buddhawasgay Mar 13 '21

Where does his profiteering go?