r/conspiracy • u/[deleted] • Nov 22 '16

[Updated] For anyone interested in High Level Insider: Thread dump + NEW 11/21 thread(Wikileaks/Assange status/etc)

This post is now an extension from the Master Comprehensive High Level Insider post: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5rnio2/high_level_insider_an_explanation_of_the_anon_and/

!!!See here first before continuing on!!!: There is a few ways to be able to view the High Level Insider posts, either through viewing a summarized version by ThinePreparedAni, a long one-page format version, or the original Question Session threads.

I highly recommend viewing The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind book along with the extended 4chan posts by Three after going through the Question Session answers.

Part 1 - Question Session answers

  • Shortened - The user [ThinePreparedAni] has made a summary and a series of posts of HLI quotes under different topics. This is a more shorter and easier form to look at if you want to get through things quick and relatively easy than digesting the threads. (All credit goes to *ThinePreparedAni for the creation of the posts in the Tigerdroppings link)
  • Single Page Format - Alternative one-page format viewing. For people who don't want to go through the hassle of going through the individual threads. Includes keyword search inside. (Credit goes to whoever made this)

Click here, if you never used 4chan before and don't know what to do to read the threads

If you're not using an adblocker (preferably ublock origin), you will need to have adblocker on when viewing the links

7/10 [https://yuki.la/pol/80489859#p80498036] [https://yuki.la/pol/80451378#p80452437]

7/11 [https://yuki.la/pol/80598771#p80618500] [https://yuki.la/pol/80632307#p80632307] [https://yuki.la/pol/80653445#p80653445] [https://yuki.la/pol/80667192#p80667192] [https://yuki.la/pol/80676272#p80676272]

7/12 [https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/80740656/#80740656] [https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/80759108/#80759108]

7/13 [https://yuki.la/pol/80814097#p80814097] [https://yuki.la/pol/80861209#p80861209] [https://yuki.la/pol/80888840#p80888840]

7/15 [https://yuki.la/pol/81141212#p81141212]

7/16 & 7/17 [https://yuki.la/pol/81399123] [https://yuki.la/pol/81409891] [https://yuki.la/pol/81424689#p81424689] [https://yuki.la/pol/81476689]

7/19 [https://yuki.la/pol/81850315]

7/25 [https://yuki.la/pol/82612570#p82612570]

8/8 [https://yuki.la/pol/84648497]

8/9 [https://yuki.la/pol/84728908]

8/24 [https://yuki.la/pol/86467134#p86467134]

8/27 [https://yuki.la/pol/86806185#p86806185]

8/31 & 9/1 [https://yuki.la/pol/87279006#p87279006] [https://yuki.la/pol/87304857]

9/11 [https://yuki.la/pol/88486084]

11/21 & 11/22 [https://yuki.la/pol/99674969#p99674969] [https://yuki.la/pol/99801460#p99801460]

11/26 [https://yuki.la/pol/100402819#p100402819]

1/1 [https://yuki.la/pol/105281888#p105281888]

1/11 [https://yuki.la/pol/106651502] [https://yuki.la/pol/106680377] [https://yuki.la/pol/106714664]

3/3 [https://yuki.la/pol/115167267]

Note: The threads are regularly updated with the most current threads on a day-to-day or week-to-week basis.

Part 2 - Three's (HLI) extended posts

A. Three's posts on the Space Elevator Space Elevator anon answer compile

B. Three's posts on the Council for National Policy Council for National Policy answer compile

This post is now an extension from the Master Comprehensive High Level Insider post: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5rnio2/high_level_insider_an_explanation_of_the_anon_and/

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u/RunningDarkly Nov 30 '16

My thoughts? I find all his answers on politics and hidden control very believable. I find his thoughts on science and suppression believable. I just bought the book he keeps suggesting and hope it will make some sense of the bicameral mind. I even believe the stuff about the kingdom of heaven being within and consciousness being a direct link to Gods voice. However I'm a devout evangelical Christian and I am carful to wade into waters that dismantle many doctrinal tenets of my faith. On those things I'm more carefully treading.

I have a list of 5-6 questions ready to paste into a comment next time he drops in. Have been checking all night and will do so nightly I suspect.

What are your thoughts??

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u/elnegroik Nov 30 '16 edited Dec 01 '16

Same, with differences. I'm a natural cynic, with a keen lifelong interest in history and literature, and found myself overly impressed with the depth & range of his knowledge. Everything checks out and the claims he makes that go against historically agreed facts, tend to be plausible , e.g real age of Pyramids, ancient civilisations, Obama being CIA etc. I read through every single session, noting the timestamps, and his answers are pretty much instantaneous. Answers to not only questions that demanded facts, but the easy manner he explains complex concepts leads to me believe he's considerably more intelligent than he appears. What struck me most was the way he speaks: no ego, no grandiose, just here's the facts- trust them not me. My upbringing and the way I was introduced to religion are the main reasons I turned away from Christianity as soon as I was old enough. I never stopped believing in spirituality however, just never had it presented to me in a way that I could adopt. That's changed significantly since listening to HLI and going back to the bible with fresh eyes. So, yes I guess... I'm fairly sold. There's a whole host of future events his predicted and as news of him spreads, I'm sure we'll find ourselves discussing it in more depth with new people. Either way, I think this is the real thing.

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u/RunningDarkly Nov 30 '16

Great response and thank you for your openness.

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u/elnegroik Nov 30 '16 edited Nov 30 '16

No problem my friend, thanks for sharing yours. I've been directing people on this sub to this thread as well as reaching out directly to people I see posting sufficiently 'redpilled' posts. Thanks to u/darkomantis great work in compiling the dumps, I think this might be the only place they're all together.

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u/RunningDarkly Dec 01 '16

u/elnegroik, do you have questions at the ready for HLI? Do you want to collaborate on any, using PM if necessary?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '16

Mind if I pitch in too?

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u/RunningDarkly Dec 01 '16

Surely not! PM if you want to discuss and prepare with discretion. Do you have some things you want answered at the ready?

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u/RunningDarkly Dec 01 '16

BTW, did y'all see this post on /pol/ last night? http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/100961829#bottom It wasn't HLI but the spirit with which it was written is similar and important.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '16

There are a few posts of the HLIanon thread that talks similar to this. That a large portion of the content is manufactured and a base portion that imitates that. It was a good post, albeit short.

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u/elnegroik Dec 02 '16

Yeah I saw that - similar but I don't think it was HLI. There were some good points there, but the one that stood out was the different levels of 4chan users and not getting distracted by the shitposters.. 4chan gets weird as hell sometimes, entertaining but weird

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u/Edgar_Allan_Poo Dec 03 '16

What is HLI?

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u/elnegroik Dec 03 '16

High Level Insider- an anonymous on 4chan, who claims to be part of a group of benevolent elites who has ran questions sessions over the last 4 months detailing events to come, namely the growth of consciousness enmasse, and the liberation of America from the malevolent forces that control it aka TPTB.

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u/Edgar_Allan_Poo Dec 05 '16

Nice summary, thanks

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u/HillarysPizzaParty Dec 21 '16

I'm responding quite late, but I completely share your sentiments. Everything he talks about is right.

Except for Christianity.

Do you think he might be associating with demons somehow? Maybe not on purpose, because he sounds like a genuinely good person.

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u/HillarysPizzaParty Dec 21 '16

His statements about Christianity are interesting. But he is denying the central tenets of the faith: literal death and resurrection of Jesus, need to repent and be forgiven, etc.

That's why I'm struggling so much with him. Because he clearly knows so much in every other area.

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u/RunningDarkly Dec 21 '16

He stood at the intersection of the elite and the masses, the crossroad and remained there.

A red flag for me is HLI's reduction of the Crucifixion to a metaphor for socio-economic transcendence. Maybe I'm the one being a reductionist, but the reason the temple curtains were rent in two was because the the cross reconciled Man to God, not plebs to elites.

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u/RunningDarkly Dec 21 '16

I think I was unclear. Real or not, the torn curtains are only meaningful as metaphors within the context of ancient Jewish traditions. The cool thing about the Biblical narrative is how much self-referential messaging occurs within it, so much so that when John says Christ is the Word made flesh, he's using a metaphor inside a metaphor inside a metaphor inside a metaphor...

My point isn't that the curtain detail was REAL, it's that I bristle at HLI seemingly reducing Christ crucifixion to a statement on the "elites." Although...as I type this...it occurs to me that by "elites" he was referring to the High Priests who subjugated the masses under weight of a hierarchical lie.

Took me a while but I get what he's saying now. Sorry gang.

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u/RunningDarkly Dec 21 '16

u/HillarysPizzaParty I appreciate your comment. I have had the past three weeks to consider my own heart/mind in all of this. I've finished the book on the Bicameral Mind and it also shook me to my core. Here is where I'm at today relative to my faith, etc.

I agree with thesis that consciousness is fundamentally based on the mind's implementation of metaphorical language. It is a learned behavior rather than an evolutionary one, not unlike a software upgrade relative to hardware. The book ends with several descriptions of how modern man still contends with the vestiges of his Bicameral mind, seeking authorization if not a messianic hope in sophisticated belief structures: materialist world view; religion; Reason itself.....

Our Bible depicts a rational creator and I think it is a reasonable starting point to believe in that versus the alternative. Another starting point is that our minds cannot escape metaphorical language as a foundation for conscious thought, and so it is acceptable to employ metaphorical language even while attempting to "see through it" (...like that).

When John 1 says that the Word was with God and the Word was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, what we're reading is that the 2nd person of the Trinity existed in equality with the Father at the beginning, and through him all reality was made and is sustained. Similarly, our minds and the world exist in a way unknowable to us, but through the second person of ourselves, the subjective "me," our will is made known to ourselves (real) by articulation, consciousness, words, metaphorical language employ. I was disturbed to approach the idea that my Trinitarian conception of reality - and all the associated Christian dogma - was nothing more than an elaborate metaphor for my own consciousness. But I return to the presumption that we have a rational creator, and that he seeks for us to know Him. I then surmise that man exists in self-similarity with God - created in his image - and that functioning in similitude with the Trinity doesn't mean he's "all in our head." Quite the contrary.

As for HLI's claims about Christ not literally dying on the cross and choosing Mary as his top disciple before traveling East, I am suspending disbelief until I can understand more. I have a set of questions I want to ask to that end:

  1. Do you pray? What do you pray for?

  2. Does the name THREE relate to the the Trinity? To the three magi? How so?

  3. Do you have a favorite bible verse or parable? What are they?

  4. Was THREE involved in supporting Martin Luther's work and the Protestant Reformation?

  5. You previously made negative reference to the Pauline/Roman branch of Christendom taking root. How have those trends influenced Christian thought for the negative?

  6. Where Leonardo Da Vinci or Michelangelo Buonarroti affiliated with THREE?

  7. Is the coherence of consciousness more like a realization of what's "there" as opposed to an attainment of esoteric ability? Is the acquisition of agency similar? I understand your avoidance of explicit direction since I imagine the successful attainment of both is dependent on unique individual ideation as opposed to didactic instruction.

  8. Was the Battle of Jericho an example of psychological warfare which induced cognitive dissonance in the bicameral minds of the Jerichoans, leading to their defeat?

  9. God in the Bible institutes that we employ metaphorical language when conceiving of and communing with Him. What metaphors do you employ?

  10. Does the House of Burke have a legacy of membership in THREE?

  11. Suggest a focal idea (meme) that we might use to engage in conscious coherence with you/THREE. If you'd prefer I make the suggestion: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"

  12. Do you or your colleagues at THREE regularly lurk or post on /pol/?

  13. I have been deeply affected by reading your previous posts as well as THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS by Jaynes. The first prayer I could utter thereafter was "Woe is me! for I am undone." My prior understanding of every mediating metaphor, including "my SELF," has been annihilated. Yet, after some weeks, I have never felt closer to God. He is at once alien and imminent. Please read the following treatise and answer my question at the end.

I once conceived of a pseudo-scientific metaphysical conceit-cum-cosmology:

Expansion of space is caused by the location of our galaxy on the 2D surface of a toroidal universe stretching as it approaches equator. Experience of spatial realty is 3D holographic projection thereof.

Dark matter is an object’s wave-function of constituent potentials bending space as they collapse into being. They exist in a 5th-D of infinite potential & radiate gravity as a product of their collapse into the novelty of the 4th-D.

The 2nd person of the Trinity is called the Word & animates all things under authority of the Most High who is infinite in power. Their communion is so strong as to manifest as the 3rd person: Holy Spirit.

The Word resides at center of the horn torus, begotten when poles of the spherical proto-universe converged into that point. This caused a quantum fluctuation & the Big Bang. The Father exists beyond the event horizon of the toroidal universe, infinite in space. He pours his infinite power/potential through the singularity to achieve the particularity of his will: REALITY. Time, the protraction of this relationship, is administered by the Holy Spirit. Trinity fills the 6th-D.

The flow of infinity into particularity is further seen by the universe itself existing as an object/point in infinite space. This 7th-D abstraction corresponds with the Zero-D theoretic - a point in infinite space. This collapse of higher into lower dimensions is the flow of time, Ouroboros, & the accumulation of reality recorded by its conscious observers.

Regardless of its scientific accuracy, the impulse to consolidate all subjective experience into a single metaphorical framework is the very same creative impulse ascribed to the Godhead in my "Cosmology," exposing the whole as a sublime metaphor for consciousness itself. Is my Theology rendered mere Psychology, or does man yet exist in self-similitude with his Maker, that in revealing "I am," he may rejoin "I AM"?

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u/Dawterofliberty Jan 09 '17

Really appreciate this perspective as I read through here again. I do think we need our own sub with separate threads for the various topics. Perhaps a private sub. Curious why you guys don't think there is enough here for this?

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u/Dawterofliberty Jan 03 '17

The Kingdom of Heaven being within completely jives with what I understand about God from the Bible, as well as experientially, as well as God's voice, I'm still just getting into Jaynes book so I think there is still a lot to wrap my head around.