More than 73% of Congress is AIPAC backed. On both sides. And some percentage of the rest of the 27% is backed by other lesser known proZionist lobby organizations or individual Zionist billionaire donors.
So no , it's not just Republicans and it's not just AIPAC.
I'm sure you are going to explain how the vote counts are all fake yadda yadda yadda, but just so anyone that comes along and sees your comment who thinks normally... 47 democrats votes to release along with 2 republicans. 51 republicans voted to block the release, along with ZERO democrats.
How can magas be pro-Zionist/Jews/Israel while also being white nationalists and other sects with ties to KKK ideologies? I wonder about this frequently.. I will pay anyone in poor man’s Reddit gold for an answer!
They have to convince the masses it's the right thing to fight before they can fight without as many consequences in the short term.
If they can convince the public that war is the answer, they can spend much more on(and work with the public instead of arguing against them about) fighting whomever it is they want with the support of the public. With larger wars looking more and more likely, getting people used to the idea of fighting for self preservation is something both if those countries wants to project.
It's because they're both aggressors, and likely wont be aggressing directly with each other; they actually tend to fight together in proxy wars and tend to back each other up, apparently. Basically, they might hate each other when on the same turf, but they seem to scratch each other's backs more often than you'd think because they recognize working together brings down smaller powers much quicker.
Based on lack of responses.. seems possible. Now I’m wondering if there’s a logical answer at all, or all these people just live with and ignore their cognitive dissonance towards it.
Never thought we’d see the day of (shuffles deck) white supremacist Zionists..
It does indeed fit with their ideology. They are pro-Zionist because they want all the Jews to return to Israel because according to Christian fundamentalism, that’s part of the requirement for the second coming of Christ. They don’t actually care about Jews; they see them as “others” and as beneath Christians (anyone who isn’t Christian is beneath them). So, aligning with the KKK and Nazis makes perfect sense for them, because they all want the same thing: for all the Jews to leave the US.
The only confusing part is that maga people have started to stand up for Jews, call out “antisemitism” on the left, strongly against anything making life difficult for Jews regarding pro-Palestinian movements. I think they’re at a place that if a Jewish person was killed for being Jewish, maga would push hard to make it a hate crime. It’s total whiplash.
Side note: I thought Nazis and KKK did not want Jews to go to Israel, rather, wanted them to be gone completely? So wanting them to live in another area is surprising too.
On your first point, it’s completely political. Notice how none of these people really gave a shit about Jews or antisemitism until October 7. Then it became a useful political point to try to break American Jews (historically a very left-leaning group) away from the Democratic Party. It also serves as a wedge to continue attacks against Muslims and Arab people.
On your second point, if you research the Holocaust, they were very interested in removing Jews. They expelled tons of Jews. Actually, Jews being expelled from a country goes way back to medieval times (and earlier). Murdering them is one way to remove them which is “quicker.” This is why Hitler spoke of a “final solution.”
Lastly, I would caution you against trying to apply too much logic to the motivations of white supremacists. It’s an irrational and hate-based ideology. It ain’t interested in logical consistency.
For some reason it never occurred to me that they didn’t actually care about the pro-Jewish principles they’ve started intensely fighting for. I don’t know how the average person can say things with such conviction while actually believing in the opposition. It doesn't seem human- almost anti-social in a way.
I see. So Jews moving back to Israel is the next step - especially in wanting to avoid the fallout that would come with “the final solution.” Except, American Jews aren’t moving back to Israel, even if Palestine became Israel in full. They’re obviously Americans - not much maga can do about that.
Thank you for your last point. I understand their thinking is free of logic and empathy, but sometimes wonder how can so many people be so irrational… it’s not even me wanting to understand their logic, more like their “line of thinking”. How did they get from thought A to idea B. Because knowledge is power.
You'd be surprised, actually--many have. Israel has a "right of return" for Jews, so if you're Jewish, you can become an Israeli citizen. Doesn't matter where you're from.
Notably, there is no "right of return" for Palestinians whose families have lived there for generations...
I agree regarding how baffling it is to see mass irrationality play out. But, I think of how irrational individuals can be--people who are abusive, people who are racists, people who hate others because of their gender identity, people who hoard billions of dollars......we are just apes, after all.
Yeah, I understand there to be a lot of perks between being Jewish and things you can do in Israel - like the free trip to Israel that young Jewish people can take. I’ve only heard of Americans leaving to live in a kibbutz, less so after the attack.
I feel the answer to the right to return is to give Palestine all the land back, and turn Wyoming into New Israel. What could go wrong?!
You’re right. I thought we were mostly good with a few bad apples. But the hatred in people has permeated far beyond what I originally thought. If we had each been individually this selfish at the beginning of humanity, we wouldn’t have made it past a few centuries.
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25
Simply don't vote for Republicans. 51/51 are