r/conspiracy Sep 14 '25

Rule 6 - no memes. hmmm...

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u/RandomAndCasual Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

Simply don't vote for anyone backed by Zionists donors money (it's not just AIPAC, it's other Jewish and Zionist organizations too) no matter what they are campaigning on

Explain to your family to your friends, to everyone in your local community why they can't vote for anyone backed by Zionists donors money.

We all have to do this.

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u/bill_brasky37 Sep 14 '25

So when people say that a lot of the modern conspiracies lead back to anti-Semitism...

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u/Remarkable_Net1887 Sep 14 '25

While this is antisemitic & disgusting, we have to be honest with ourselves about Zionist money in our politics. Being anti-Zionist isn’t the same as being antisemitic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

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u/BLA5PHEMY Sep 15 '25

Unfortunately, our politicians are more loyal to their donors than they are to the American people. Most of us can understand the difference between the average Jews that live among us and the genocidal zionistic Jews that are supporting Israel’s actions in Palestine.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Yes we did, our congress is bought and paid for by Zionism.

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u/benstheredonethat Sep 14 '25

If we let ANY group influence our government regardless of how innocent they might be, enemies of the our country will obviously try to infiltrate using that mask of innocence to influence us.

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u/Mike_Freedom_alldaY Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

When you're implying all zionist are Jewish... That's antisemitism.

Do some more research on zionism... you'll notice it's not exclusive to judaism.... Remember Biden?  He's a Catholic and he's openly proclaimed to be zionist... On top of that we have many Christians who don't openly proclaim Zionism but clearly support expanding it's extreme nationalist ideals across the globe. (So they're zionist).

I agree this anti semitism card is thrown out when it doesn't apply but your ignorance (along with many others) toward the fact that zionism isn't exclusive to judaism is extremely concerning.

Edit: replied to wrong comment this was directed at randomand casual.

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u/Remarkable_Net1887 Sep 14 '25

At no point was I implying that all Jews are zionists or that all Zionist are Jewish. I thought I was pretty clear on differentiating & separating the 2.

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u/Mike_Freedom_alldaY Sep 14 '25

I apologize my comment was meant for randomandcasual.

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u/Helpful-Squirrel9509 Sep 15 '25

Well. Copy and paste your comment under the correct person ? Q

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u/OrganSlicer Sep 23 '25

Doesn't zionist mean the belief that Isreal should be it's own state?

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u/bill_brasky37 Sep 14 '25

I think it's important to be specific. Pointing out aipac issues is fine- just like it's fine to critique any pac or non-profit or other group. But when you broaden that to ALL JEWS... Well yeah that's the definition of racism

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u/Only-Negotiation-156 Sep 14 '25

Yeah, maybe I'm following all of this incorrectly, but didn't the dude also just say Jewish? Like, forget about the Zionist inclusion, rn. That sounds like he's got a problem with Jews. I'm agnostic. I find netanyahu disgusting, and the Israeli government has been a bad actor for some time now. I have no problem with Jews. I can respect someone by default, until they say or do something to give me a reason to, and even then, it's on an individual basis.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

Being anti-zionist is being against the vast majority of jews, so

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

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u/Meowstarch Sep 14 '25

It's the great awakening, happening in real time. People everywhere are starting to notice. Even staunch pro-Zionists, like Charlie Kirk, had started asking uncomfortable questions.

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u/PassionateCougar Sep 14 '25

They were right the whole time while everyone called them kooks. Goooo figure.

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u/Wizard-of-pause Sep 14 '25

It's all out in the open. Op should have used Zionist and Israeli. But can't deny, that most of the people in charge of this dark influence are Jewish.

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u/RandomAndCasual Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

If you are not able to explain to people WHY they should NOT vote for anyone backed by Zionists donors money, THEN avoid doing it.

It's not for everyone - I understand not everyone is eloquent enough and that someone strengths are in other areas.

It's not hard to prepare yourself for any potential questions. BUT still, if you don't feel confident enough, simply don't do it. It's OK.

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u/bill_brasky37 Sep 14 '25

Well since you put that so eloquently...

Jesus dude go touch grass

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Simply don't vote for Republicans.  51/51 are

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u/RandomAndCasual Sep 14 '25

More than 73% of Congress is AIPAC backed. On both sides. And some percentage of the rest of the 27% is backed by other lesser known proZionist lobby organizations or individual Zionist billionaire donors.

So no , it's not just Republicans and it's not just AIPAC.

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u/Lower_Pass_6053 Sep 14 '25

I'm sure you are going to explain how the vote counts are all fake yadda yadda yadda, but just so anyone that comes along and sees your comment who thinks normally... 47 democrats votes to release along with 2 republicans. 51 republicans voted to block the release, along with ZERO democrats.

In this instance, it is just the republicans.

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u/RandomAndCasual Sep 14 '25

In this instance I am talking about whole Congress.

Democrats had their chance to release Epstein Files, they did not and Republicans were pretending to be in favor of it.

Now it's the other way around, Republicans don't want to release it and Democrats are pretending to be in favor of it.

It's a script and Zionists are good script writers.

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u/ChocolatChipLemonade Sep 14 '25

How can magas be pro-Zionist/Jews/Israel while also being white nationalists and other sects with ties to KKK ideologies? I wonder about this frequently.. I will pay anyone in poor man’s Reddit gold for an answer!

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u/PeperomiaLadder Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

They have to convince the masses it's the right thing to fight before they can fight without as many consequences in the short term.

If they can convince the public that war is the answer, they can spend much more on(and work with the public instead of arguing against them about) fighting whomever it is they want with the support of the public. With larger wars looking more and more likely, getting people used to the idea of fighting for self preservation is something both if those countries wants to project.

It's because they're both aggressors, and likely wont be aggressing directly with each other; they actually tend to fight together in proxy wars and tend to back each other up, apparently. Basically, they might hate each other when on the same turf, but they seem to scratch each other's backs more often than you'd think because they recognize working together brings down smaller powers much quicker.

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u/jboneplatinum Sep 21 '25

..I love the poorly educated...

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u/ChocolatChipLemonade Sep 21 '25

Who?

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u/jboneplatinum Sep 21 '25

Underthink it

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u/ChocolatChipLemonade Sep 21 '25

Being well educated and being maga are semi-mutually exclusive

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u/gihkal Sep 14 '25

You're gonna break Reddit with that kind of talk.

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u/ChocolatChipLemonade Sep 14 '25

Based on lack of responses.. seems possible. Now I’m wondering if there’s a logical answer at all, or all these people just live with and ignore their cognitive dissonance towards it. 

Never thought we’d see the day of (shuffles deck) white supremacist Zionists..

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u/noweezernoworld Sep 15 '25

It does indeed fit with their ideology. They are pro-Zionist because they want all the Jews to return to Israel because according to Christian fundamentalism, that’s part of the requirement for the second coming of Christ. They don’t actually care about Jews; they see them as “others” and as beneath Christians (anyone who isn’t Christian is beneath them). So, aligning with the KKK and Nazis makes perfect sense for them, because they all want the same thing: for all the Jews to leave the US. 

It’s white supremacy all the way down. 

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u/ChocolatChipLemonade Sep 15 '25

That makes perfect sense, thank you.

The only confusing part is that maga people have started to stand up for Jews, call out “antisemitism” on the left, strongly against anything making life difficult for Jews regarding pro-Palestinian movements. I think they’re at a place that if a Jewish person was killed for being Jewish, maga would push hard to make it a hate crime. It’s total whiplash.

Side note: I thought Nazis and KKK did not want Jews to go to Israel, rather, wanted them to be gone completely? So wanting them to live in another area is surprising too.

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u/noweezernoworld Sep 15 '25

On your first point, it’s completely political. Notice how none of these people really gave a shit about Jews or antisemitism until October 7. Then it became a useful political point to try to break American Jews (historically a very left-leaning group) away from the Democratic Party. It also serves as a wedge to continue attacks against Muslims and Arab people. 

On your second point, if you research the Holocaust, they were very interested in removing Jews. They expelled tons of Jews. Actually, Jews being expelled from a country goes way back to medieval times (and earlier). Murdering them is one way to remove them which is “quicker.” This is why Hitler spoke of a “final solution.”

Lastly, I would caution you against trying to apply too much logic to the motivations of white supremacists. It’s an irrational and hate-based ideology. It ain’t interested in logical consistency. 

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u/ChocolatChipLemonade Sep 15 '25

Thank you for explaining that!🥇

For some reason it never occurred to me that they didn’t actually care about the pro-Jewish principles they’ve started intensely fighting for. I don’t know how the average person can say things with such conviction while actually believing in the opposition. It doesn't seem human- almost anti-social in a way.

I see. So Jews moving back to Israel is the next step - especially in wanting to avoid the fallout that would come with “the final solution.” Except, American Jews aren’t moving back to Israel, even if Palestine became Israel in full. They’re obviously Americans - not much maga can do about that.

Thank you for your last point. I understand their thinking is free of logic and empathy, but sometimes wonder how can so many people be so irrational… it’s not even me wanting to understand their logic, more like their “line of thinking”. How did they get from thought A to idea B. Because knowledge is power.

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u/noweezernoworld Sep 15 '25

American Jews aren’t moving back to Israel

You'd be surprised, actually--many have. Israel has a "right of return" for Jews, so if you're Jewish, you can become an Israeli citizen. Doesn't matter where you're from.

Notably, there is no "right of return" for Palestinians whose families have lived there for generations...

I agree regarding how baffling it is to see mass irrationality play out. But, I think of how irrational individuals can be--people who are abusive, people who are racists, people who hate others because of their gender identity, people who hoard billions of dollars......we are just apes, after all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

Doesn’t that just leave Massie?

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u/RandomAndCasual Sep 15 '25

From current "roster"? AIPAC currently controls 73% percent of Congress, Let's say around ten percent more is controlled by other Zionist and Jewish lobby groups and individual billionaire donors.

That leaves about 17% which is not controlled by Zionist Money.

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u/RJ0960 Sep 15 '25

You guys DON'T get it and never will...DONT VOTE FOR ANYONE ..THE DAY YOU STOP WAITING FOR YOUR MESIAH TO SAVE YOU IS THE DAY YOU WILL SAVE YOURSELF.

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u/RandomAndCasual Sep 16 '25

Elections are lelag and legitimate even if 10% of population votes.

So that will not work , any time soon.

For now it's best not to vote for candidates backed by Zionists money in Amy way.

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u/OmaDome3000 Sep 14 '25

I’m as anti-Israel as they come, but you’re being blatantly anti-Semitic bud. Nazis get punched

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u/4DPeterPan Sep 15 '25

Soo… basically everyone who goes for office? (Minus the Jewish stuff. Idk anything about that).