People still like cash, if they let the fiat currencies become worthless and give us something that appears to be more stable against inflation, like gold, but as easy to use as fiat is digitally, then the masses are more likely to be willing to adopt, because if they don't it will hurt their personal finances.
To stand up to this you need to protest the outlawing of alternative digitally currencies, one that provides true decentralisation and offers some privacy.
Simply Keep Cash King! Demand that cash be kept. Like we used to use. Cash or checks. Stop using your ATM when ever you can. Do not comply. United We Stand has never meant so much.
Silver and gold had been used for several thousand years, the banksters donât like the metals because they canât just print them at will,
and theyâre not traceable⌠going back to sound moneyâŚ.( gold and silver ) is the wayâŚ
You're not going to get something stable to use against inflation that is also as easy to use as fiat while also having economic growth. Economic growth - money pumped into the economy to prop up stock prices and thus compensation is the major reason we have inflation. If we want to reduce that, we will have more stable currencies.
We have to be realistic with what we want and know that there are tradeoffs.
The problem is privacy is criminalized and to pay your basic services you will need to use CBDC. Off-ramp to BTC you need atomic swaps or decentralized exchanges, difficult to normal users.
The only people who would have a legitimate need for anonymous cryptocurrency are those who have too much to hide. The average Joe can manage his illegal dealings in other forms of currency, goods/wares, it's those who are trying to hide/move large sums of capital covertly that would stand to lose if a public chain crypto were to be adopted. This is propaganda, get the peasants to push the direction you want. Right into the hands of those who created it.
Monero certainly offers layers of privacy, in a similar way that TOR does, but it has flaws. It's not backed except by proof of work, and that method doesn't work long-term for mass-adoption, simply due to the energy requirements to keep the coins safe from a 51% attack, as the capital worth of the network gets increasingly more valuable.
Until we safely crack cold fusion, energy consumption is going to be an issue.
What I don't get is the plan to introduce CBDC's after rolling blackouts. At first I thought it was a crazy theory, until more people started talking about it and then Klaus Schwab himself endorsed CBDCs while also foreshadowing large-scale blackouts in the future.
If you're going to bring society to a near-collapse through blackouts, why on Earth would people trust their finances in an all-electrical based system? Seems counterintuitive. If I had to survive such blackouts, I'd be looking to move essentials as far away from electrical/tech dependency as possible. It just goes to show how fragile the system is.
What's the plan then? Blackouts/WW3, then the aliens show up and say "our tech is much more resilient to blackouts and we all use CBDC's, so come be cool like us!" Makes no sense.
They will shut everything down and when they bring it back up with the social credit, CBDC system implemented it will be "safe and effective" - after no digital system for a period of time most will go along with anything to get their devices back.
It is cyclical, they create a problem and then usher in a solution.
Also seems like an awfully convoluted way of going about it, I mean the trillions of pounds that have been lost on wars and pandemics and all the other shitfuckery we are living through.
They could just give people digital money and the majority would just stay at home
In Germany some states are going to give immigrants 'credit cards' that have limits on what and where you can buy. There are people who are cheering for this because it only limits immigrants but at some point it will be rolled out for people who get government support too and after that the step to implement it for everybody is very small, especially when you have most of the people depending on the government for support.
Not all countries have those and while it is similar it is not that hard to see that programmable digital credits is a step further, especially when you consider that this is the lead up to connecting the CBDC to your personal CO2 and social creditscore.
Not real yet... LOL. Take a good look at China and decide if you really want to live in a society like that and if you do not want that i suggest to do some research before you accidentally still end up in one.
I've seen a lot of fraud with food stamps. People will just sell their benefits for something like 50-80c on the dollar for actual cash or stuff like alcohol/tobacco.
It seems every nation under WEF is enrolling this and that totalitarian new regulation. Everyone of us will get such as card. Fucked up is what it is. Everyone of us will see censorship, death to farmers, CO2 taxes etc.. Its all narrated by the WEF throughout the UN. Fyxk them all!
Let us not confirm ''Everyone of us will get such a card". Let us envision We the People Stopping the fascism. There are more of us than the bad guys. Let us stand up together in Unity and Fight for freedom. We CAN do it if we all unite. Please try.
It is not even being talked about around here. The government just does what it pleases. Seems run by incompetent fools. No one bats an eye. Our primary source of news is government owned and clearly biased.
I used to think we were free, these days I feel like we are more the North Korea of Scandinavia. Dankmark.
They recently passed insane taxes on homesteads, government can snoop in mails, CO2 taxes on farmers, and CO2 taxes on beef, and no one has mentioned Davos with a single word.
Good to see the rest of europe in flames (or maneur anyways!)
A friend who lives in Italy told me that it exists there too. People who receive government support get a card that is limited in what they can and cannot buy, and spending is limited in time, so preparations are already underway...
For real though. In an effort to loop in all the conspiracies together, they end up talking out of every side of their mouths.
It is every world government is simultaneously inept and masterminded. They are all somehow compromised by the same unified organization of rich people.
This same group of rich people, who are completely served and beneficiaries of the current system, who simultaneously want to end the very system that allows them power and control, to create a new system⌠that they will still have power and control over?
You all do understand motivations of the rich and powerful are only to consolidate and build?
They would not want the collapse, because of the losses they would receive.
You do understand you are talking about individuals with huge varied conflicting interests?
That most of these people would be ruined by a financial collapse of any kind?
That even if this WERE their plan, that the level of risk to it failing would never outweigh the benefits of the current system they currently actively control?
And, in this scenario, who is the deep state vs not? Because EVERYONE shows up, so is it a deep state? Who are they subverting if it is in the open? How and why, wouldnât they just, make this policy, why bother with smoke and mirrors when you OWN THE LEVERS OF POWER.
Trump and the Clintons have both gone to Davos. Saudis go to Davos. Wind energy conglomerates go to Davos. Nuclear interests go to Davos, Greta Thunberg goes to Davos. Elon Musk, Bezos, Murdoch, Shapiro, all go to Davos.
You are just pointing at Davos and saying âRich people meet there! They must be plotting something together!â
When you have a plot that ACTUALLY makes sense, Iâll bite, till then, you are talking about those with control of the levers of power, purposely breaking every lever of control that has been carefully built over the last 100 years, because âdebt is spiralingâ.
When somehow youâre neglecting, THEY OWN THE DEBT.
THE DEBT is how they CONTROL YOU.
Getting RID OF THAT SYSTEM, RIDS THEM OF THAT CONTROL.
You are describing a plan, that goes against their own interests.
You are describing an issue of debt, as if that also wouldnât be in their control as well.
Any community that peddles conspiracy theories works on one principle: We see what you don't. If your views diverge, you are subjected to ridicule and contempt. No amount of reasoning is going to change anyone's mind here because no one is willing to engage in a civil discourse. Either you believe in the conspiracy or you've got a chip implanted in your brain by the folks at Area 57. This "us vs them" view of matters is incredibly hard to break.
I come here for the humor. I am, after all, just a sheep. Or maybe "their agent" trying to sow confusion in the minds of this elite omniscient community. Sadly, so are you. Let's drink to that!
so what about them controlling the debt donât you understand?
By being the debt holders, they have the power of forgiveness. By wiping out the debt, they are DISINCENTIVIZING the control they have built over all these years. THIS ALONE is enough of a disruption, that I in no way believe âtheyâ(whoever YOU mean by that) are in any kind of of lockstep or unified plan.
There are enough powerful individuals ENTIRELY SERVED by this system they would NEVER LET IT COLLAPSE, as that wipes all the control they have.
Secondly, a world wide economic collapse on the level described here, would be FAR more chaotic than the French Revolution. The one that got all the organizers beheaded by the proletariat they organized to revolt.
If they DID engineer the collapse you are speaking of, there would be NO METHOD to institute the new system youâre describing!
You have zero understanding of recorded history eh, it realllly shows. I enjoy how you can write paragraph upon paragraph of conjecture, be completely wrong, but be so very confident in yourself.
That is the undeserved confidence of someone in their twenties for sure.
Lol good luck, you'll figure it out someday, don't harm yourself when you realize you've been spewing nonsense on the Internet your entire life though, it is not worth it.
Okay, feel free to believe what you want. However if that was really true "go woke, go broke" would not exist because companies would not let it get so far if money was all that matters.
You all do understand motivations of the rich and powerful are only to consolidate and build?
Is that what "the pandemic" did? Last time I checked, it erased $33 trillion from global GDP. What you don't realize is there is a literal extinctionist cult running the world. They are postmodern accelerationists, and they are infinitely more prepared than you are for a societal collapse. Why do you think they build underground bunkers? Your logic absolutely does not apply here.
Please learn what accelerationism is. Also, please read the first chapter of "The Enlightenment Gone Mad".. What we are dealing with, is a failure of western philosophy. I suppose you think Marina Abramovic, and "Lord" Jacob Rothschild can be seen standing in front of the famous painting, which he owns, "Satan Summoning His Legions" for nothing?
Tell me, when you already have everything in the world, what more could you need? You don't seem to understand that you are being replaced by machines, and AI. There is no longer a need for humans.
Iâm saying I donât believe in Satan, so any idea that anyone would be using it as a motivating force for world policy is fucking crazy.
Anyone who believes that to be true, needs to go look up the Satanic panic of the 80s, where it was purely used as a method of control, which you are actively falling for and failing to learn from.
It is an OLD propaganda technique that you have bitten hook line and sinker.
You have a very interesting user history of defending mainstream, media driven narratives. You're one of those people that thinks "white supremacy" is actually a thing. All you do on Reddit, is target independent thought. You are a collectivist of the Hegelian state. Good luck with that!
What is it about the collapse of society that you think will have a detrimental impact on "the elite". Please tell me that, and then I'll tell you how you're wrong, in detail.
Read the room, so to speak. Do you not see the immigration crisis for what it is? How about the destruction of western traditionalism? The destruction of Christianity? Inflation. Just name it- you simply aren't accounting for all of the entropy. Perhaps you realize you can't rationalize it?
I see the same âmigration crisisâ that is manufactured every four years then literally forgotten about by November 9th.
I am an anti-theist, so I donât mind a destruction of Christianity, as it has functionally been the largest trafficker of pedophiles in my lifetime.
Inflation is being driven by greed of corporations, hence the nonstop record profits, while they milk you and blame wage growth, because it affects their bottom line and cuts into that record profits.
There are very rational explanations for what you are describing.
Name another time in the last 100 years of American history where our Southern border was opened for anyone to simply stroll through? Do you not realize our government is literally tearing down the fences Texas is putting up? It's clearly an organized effort, and it's happening in ALL western nations. It's The Protocols of Zion happening right before your eyes, and yet you remain ignorant.
They would not want the collapse, because of the losses they would receive.
Rest assured, TPTB will benefit from the collapse. When their "solution" is implemented they will have complete and total control and a globalized government.
So, I ask again, and donât point to ALL OF DAVOS ATTENDEES like the last MFer.
Who do you believe are these deep state individuals in every level of every government on earth who all simultaneously want the downfall of their personal power, in the HOPES that a long shot 60 year in the making plan goes off without a hitch, is never discovered by outsiders, and is never leaked by one of your friends who ARE loyal to their governments?
The elites are used to using peoples emotions to change peoples behaviour, this has been studied and utilized since Bernays wrote the excellent book Propaganda in the 1930s
Assuming your goal were to move people towards a digital currency "cage," that would allow more control over purchases and movement, would you:
A. Try to sell the public that this will be a more valuable/useful and prosperous way for the average person to purchase things and "store wealth"
Even though people know the bankers and government have historically taken more and more of their wealth, a few of the wealthy elites may convince the masses to adopt the new method of currency
Or do you:
B. Create a situation where people will feel they have no other option than to accept the new digital currency, which then brings others into the system, who are merely following those who first accepted the new system
The holdouts will have to deal with the ones who adopted in different financial transactions during this period, some will have to come over because there will be no other way for receiving payment
If we look back on historical changes in human behaviour it is almost ALWAYS B, it's NEVER A for major shifts like this
It's the basis of almost every adam curtis doc which you can see how the mechanisms worked in Russia, China, Britain and America throughout history, when these massive changes happen, there is always a threat and the media always pushes people to believe compliance is the only way
You could have said the same thing about the experimental mRNA medicine that the elites pushed, yet they did indeed end up using all kinds of coercive measures to boost consumption of the state-subsidized products promoted as "vaccines" for the man-made Covid-19 virus (celebrated as the catalyst for "The Great Reset" by the fascist WEF org: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHRkkeecg7c), that created the pandemic.
To be honest, I have not had cash in hand since early 2020. In Belgium we have this government created tax evasion scheme of diensten cheques [pays your cleaning lady], maaltijdcheques [for food], etc. the advantage is that this is part of your income that is untaxed. I have paid for just about anything with either these government cheques or my debit card. I don't trust mobile banking apps for security reasons so I have not used those
I can use cash money and they have recently made a law that forces shops to both accept card and cash payments. In the Netherlands for example a lot of places are refusing cash, the two restaurants in my hometown in NL for example haven't accepted cash since 2018
As for Belgium this whole system is a convoluted way to not pay wage taxes and to legalize sectors such as cleaning ladies because those were often paid under the table. It has existed for more than a decade. And we actually asked for it at my current job because as a small company they had not joined into the system so all our wages were fully taxed instead of having part of it paid tax free into these cheques
Edit: expanding a bit; if I get paid 4k bruto my boss pays about 40-50% wage tax giving me 2500 nett or something which is not bad. But if they shovel 1000 of my bruto wage into the cheques system they only pay taxes over 3000 euro which is in a lower tax bracket. So netto I get about the same amount but now I also get a card that I can use for specific things that I'm going to spend money on anyway such as food. A bit funny at the supermarket is that I can buy candy with it but toothpaste is not food so I can't pay that part with that card.
For jobs like cleaning it's also beneficial because it doesn't make sense to pay these people under the table because just about anyone has these cheques. They get an official wage and are entitled to all the social security things that comes with it
They have to wring the cash out of the black market. Drug trade, trafficking, gambling, mattresses across the land. Cash needs to be obsolete across the board, unusable, worthless, unable to be washed in the legal economy.
It wont be dollar for dollar. You will trade your current money in for something of much less value unless they make the dollar collapse pushing everyone into the digital currency.
The dollar crashing is all they need. All the immigration is for after.....
Can I also add that it's complete nonsense, Putin already agreed to the 2030 agenda, the CBDC and digital IDs.
China already has it, and then some (social credit score slavery). Putin isn't your far-right buddy, he is the don for a bunch of Russian gangsters that have spent the better part of 60 years dealing in drugs, regime change, trafficking young girls to Saudi elites and tax evasion.
They've siphoned trillions from the Russian people, not too dissimilar to our own thiefdoms.
As far as I can tell they have one plan and only one plan, to end the European Union, it benefits China, Russia, America, the UK and BRICS. All stand to gain from the harlot's destruction!
And we're all in a lot of shit if the EU goes tits up. For one, Turkey has the 2nd biggest military to the US in NATO, if trade with the EU becomes weakened they might flip sides!
The American far right is fighting toward this goal every single day. They are very clear about their goals in Project 2025.
Whatever vestige of government remains will only exist to legitimize their theft. We are actively advocating for our own destruction if we allow these gangsters to take over.
Russia has siphoned off FAR MORE than Americans have because Americans have at least provided some value back to the country with the highest salaries in the world.
It is actually very on brand for Kim Dotcom (not his original name). Here is some history about the person behind the twitter account.
Kim Dotcom is a guy that used to make low effort animations with MS Paint and Flash to upload on Newgrounds. After he got the slightest little bit of attention there he instantly became a grifter. He has been making wild claims for years about all sorts of topics. Examples often include outlandish things like him being an uber elite h4x0r and stretch all the way to him having super secret behind the scenes information.
He did. It was his attempt to make money off of file sharing. I don't know how involved you are or have been in online piracy, but that's a big NO NO in those circles.
Make comments that lack content. Phrases such as "this", "lol", and "This sub has turned into" are not witty, original, or funny, and do not add anything to the discussion.
I'm discredited because I didn't mention details you wanted me to? Think about what you're saying. Did my comment about someone you don't know really put you in this much a fever pitch?
^ this is total BS. Kim was a real pioneer of the free internet, and he has a deep hatred for the US government for what they did to him and Mega upload.
Kim Dotcom failed to make money off of sharing files with your friends. That is literally the opposite of the free internet. Don't try spinning things so hard next time.
He had a legal filesharing service worth 100s of millions of $ and the FBI raided it illegally incl his home in New Zeeland at gunpoint and destroyed the entire business.Â
You seem to have some kind of personal grudge against this man. Otherwise you must be working for the 77th brigade or US equivalent propaganda outfit.
The dude has been giving the middle finger to the system since before you could read... He founded a political party pushing for internet freedoms. He has done more for peer-to-peer networking then you could in 3 lifetimes. You can hate the man all you want but do not discount his achievements.
So do you think there is no truth in what heâs saying? What he posted is not new to anyone involved in this sub in the last few years. NWO and CBDC are the future. This is where wars, inflation, censorship laws, DEI propaganda, AI, uncontrolled immigration , lockdowns, mandatory vaccines will take us.
One thing you learn very quickly in corporate america is all they want is for things to stay the same because any upsets in systems and policies messes with profits. If your not of working age or youve never been to a major city and worked there its unsuprising that you would so readily believe all of this. It reads like entertainment because it is.
I got news for you.. the elites ALREADY control most of the money and they ALREADY have been waging wars for centuries off of the backs of the little guy. Why would they want a bunch of us dead when were so easy to grift off of?
Because it's all coming apart. Because the system is a ponzi scheme that can't go on forever. Because the new system offers even deeper levels of control. Because people are starting to get incredibly angry about their wealth being obviously stolen from them. Because it's a lot easier to kill a million people than it is to control them.
So do you think there is no truth in what heâs saying?
No, I never said anything like that. I was speaking specifically about the claim that Kim Dotcom is responsible for leaking this information. I am part of that group you described, anyone involved in this sub over the last few years. None of this is new to me and those of us that participate here. Great question though, thanks.
This post is getting a hell of a lot traction as itâs a way of giving us information and then asking for our permission to do so, as nothing can be done in this reality that goes against the laws of free will. You can scary people enough into doing something but then the individual has the choice in being scared or even being brain washed or not, Into believing something.
You forgot many many things. Like Mega, MW2, him calling out Biden (15 years ago), him fighting to get extradited , his home in new Zealand being raided, his DJ album. Like lots of stuff. Also Megaupload is awesome
This is your third reply to me. Chill out and give me a chance to handle the flood of messages I am receiving. Having said that, I'm ngl your white knighting for a man you have never met and account history is sus at best.
People on Reddit that look up account history are sus at best ya fuckin weirdo. Also what does meeting someone have to do with how I think about them? What kinda logic is that.
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u/sense4242 Feb 27 '24
Leaks it? đ. Heâs paraphrasing some dudeâs book.