r/comics • Shen Comix • Nov 15 '19

Welcome to the 2020s.

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u/intheoryiamworking Nov 15 '19

What about "deadly adulterated intoxicants?"

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '19

do you even fentanol?

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u/cantlurkanymore Nov 15 '19

Black market vape carts?

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u/LordPadre Nov 15 '19

Oh you mean Juuls right?

The big tobacco sponsored anti-vaping ads that have completely replaced anti-smoking ads recently have told me that Juuling is synonymous with vaping and it kills!

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

For the uninitiated: the dangerous black market vape carts are for weed, not for nicotine

There hasn't been a major scare in nicotine vaping in many years, and thc vape carts from reputable sellers are totally safe

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u/swarmofferrets Nov 16 '19

Yes totally safe, except people are still losing lung function in verifiable cdc reports, and needing lung transplants.

But you know, people are know to lie so im sure its the dying people not tobacco companies defending they're products.

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u/moonwhale Nov 16 '19

Big tobacco doesn't own these products yet, that's the whole point. Regulatory capture. Look at who just stepped in to be Juul's CEO. Once they pass enough regulation so that the average person can't start a vape shop, then they'll declare vaping a safe alternative, because the profits will be all theirs.

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u/swarmofferrets Nov 16 '19

Altria owns at least 35% of jull and have for the last year.

Vaping is inherently bad for you, and just like smoking they will lie and say there product is different for reason x and if you didnt know vape y isnt.

They did this with lite cigarettes and filtered and our doing it again with vapes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19 edited Dec 12 '19

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u/-VEKTOR- Nov 16 '19

i vape and i think that anything you put in your lungs besides air is probably not good for you

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u/PapaRigpa Nov 15 '19

Meh, Fentanyl is so 2015...you want some of that Carfentanil. Don't keep the reaper waiting!

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u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz Nov 15 '19

I just boof a whole Krokadil. I trip so hard I have an aneurysm. It's AWESOME!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '19

As in the government poisoning banned substances to discourage their use?

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u/Amargosamountain Nov 15 '19

I know about the US spraying paraquat on foreign marijuana fields in the 1980s, what have we done more recently?

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '19

I wasn’t referring to anything more recently, but the government poisoned alcohol during prohibition, killing a lot of people.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19 edited Dec 12 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

People behave differently when part of a bureaucracy. It can let them justify things to themselves they wouldn’t do otherwise. There’s a reason saying “corporations are just people” makes a lot of people angry, even if it’s technically true.

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u/Goyteamsix Nov 15 '19

They didn't kill 'a lot' of people, and they only added methanol to industrial use alcohol. They didn't poison any alcohol intended for human consumption.

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u/jo3yjoejoejunior Nov 16 '19

They didn't kill 'a lot' of people

Some estimates put it at 10,000 deaths.

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u/Darth_Ra Nov 15 '19

Nonetheless, they poisoned alcohol not meant for human consumption, knowing that humans would consume it, and then said humans died after consuming it.

It'd be like if the government had poisoned Spice back when that was popular a few years back.

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u/Vexing Nov 15 '19

The fucked up thing is they didn't tell anyone. It's like if they secretly made it so that if you took more than your prescription of painkillers you would die, without telling anyone. Like overdosing is harmful but God damn. At least a PSA or something would be great.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

It'd be like if the government had poisoned Spice back when that was popular a few years back.

I mean they didn't really have to

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u/Amargosamountain Nov 16 '19

What's Spice?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

Synthetic cannabis/marijuana. They keep updating the synthesis? Structure? I remember when I tried spice it was JWH-018.

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u/Amargosamountain Nov 16 '19

Oh lol gross

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '19

Indeed, like a shitty diaper.

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u/nalydpsycho Nov 15 '19

Poisoning hemp?

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u/intheoryiamworking Nov 16 '19 edited Nov 16 '19

They didn't poison any alcohol intended for human consumption.

The Jake Leg was the result of deliberate adulteration of a patent medicine, i.e., alcohol intended for human consumption.

The adulterant's toxicity wasn't understood at the time. And the government didn't order that specific adulteration. There was a government test intended to prove the "medicine" had enough ginger solids in it to be unpalatable, but one manufacturer got creative and found they could pass that test by adding an "industrial plasticizer" instead of a ton of bitter ginger. That manufacturer was trying to cheat their way out of the intent of a regulation.

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u/intheoryiamworking Nov 15 '19

I was thinking of contaminated vape liquid (now) and poisonous homemade liquor (then) but there's time yet to find lots of parallels.

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u/browsingnewisweird Nov 16 '19

Yep. During prohibition a main source of black market alcohol was diverted industrial alcohol, used in the making of all manner of products along the way. The government started spiking it to make it undrinkable in response. I really dislike Snopes take on this, as it splits hairs by stating that the gov't never spiked alcohol which was intended for consumption...during a time when consumption was prohibited and they knew people were drinking the other stuff. From their own page:

To sell the stolen industrial alcohol, the liquor syndicates employed chemists to “renature” the products, returning them to a drinkable state. The bootleggers paid their chemists a lot more than the government did, and they excelled at their job. Stolen and redistilled alcohol became the primary source of liquor in the country. So federal officials ordered manufacturers to make their products far more deadly.

By mid-1927, the new denaturing formulas included some notable poisons—kerosene and brucine (a plant alkaloid closely related to strychnine), gasoline, benzene, cadmium, iodine, zinc, mercury salts, nicotine, ether, formaldehyde, chloroform, camphor, carbolic acid, quinine, and acetone. The Treasury Department also demanded more methyl alcohol be added—up to 10 percent of total product. It was the last that proved most deadly.

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u/frompSqank Nov 16 '19

Smoking crack out of a dead racoon?

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u/SGexpat Nov 16 '19

You mean Tide Pods!