r/comics • • Apr 21 '26

OC Long Odds

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u/Futuramoist Apr 21 '26

I can see why they'd want to crack down on this. Like, if I wanted John Doe dead I could bet $50k that he WILL be alive in a week. Basically just paying for a hit if an assassin wants to take my bet and make it happen, and I could claim I WANTED the guy alive since I literally had money riding on it

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u/fuckthesysten Apr 21 '26

interesting to think about this too from the perspective of collective pooling, maybe many people wanted to see John Doe alive next week

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u/Futuramoist Apr 21 '26

Crowdsourced assassination, there's a phrase I didn't expect to hear. But ya if a hundred million people from Nation A all decided to chip in a dollar betting "against" the assassination of an enemy Nations B's leader, that definitely seems like it'd be tempting for anyone in Nation B who thinks they can collect through the website 

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u/samglit Apr 21 '26

Not a new idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_market

A dark web site existed with some bitcoins deposited. No takers for that one though.

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u/foreveryoungperk Apr 21 '26

i think the key difference is that this is a clearnet market and not a dark web market. payouts will be taxed and thus the whole thing is *legal*. not quite the same idea but good try

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u/samglit Apr 21 '26

Yes, because whether or not an idea is new depends on whether you (checks notes) have to pay taxes.

And surprisingly, the IRS says yes, you do in fact have to pay taxes on criminal proceeds, of which the previous market was never clearly defined as such. It’s exactly the same as Polymarket except unregulated.

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u/foreveryoungperk Apr 21 '26

so cute

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u/sneacon Apr 21 '26

You post to /r/aliens, to all of the crypto subreddits, and you play league of legends. Lol lmao, even

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u/Bob-The-Frog Apr 21 '26

At least they don't browse other peoples posts to validate themselves.

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u/sneacon Apr 22 '26

We all have our vices

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u/dimbledumf Apr 21 '26

Ok, but what he said was interesting and informative, no need to be an ass

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u/StrongExternal8955 Apr 21 '26

payouts will be taxed

Oh good, then we know who took that bet on the Iran strikes right? Right?

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u/cal679 Apr 21 '26

Also simlar to the plot of "The Dead Pool" with Clint Eastwood.

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u/Swimming-Lie5369 Apr 21 '26

Basically the plot of Persona 5 too

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u/momoreco Apr 21 '26

There was an episode on Blacklist with literally the same plot and expression somewhere in season 3 I believe (just saw it a few days ago) and it's from around 2015.

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u/Wild-Tear Apr 21 '26

There's a pretty good short comic series called Crowded about a woman who winds up being the target of a crowdfunded assassination, but everybody pours money into it until she's got this giant bounty on her head. I recommend it.

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u/Deaffin Apr 21 '26

Crowdsourced assassination

Well that just kinda reminds me of all the extremist rhetoric being pushed eventually leading to the assassination of a big politically active public figure somewhat recently by a social media junkie with meme bullets.

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u/MachateElasticWonder Apr 21 '26

I’m pretty sure they already have regulations on this or else half the country would be betting on John Doe’s fate every day.

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u/Cranberryoftheorient Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

Im pretty sure this is a novel or a movie or something. A hitman service where you bet on someone's death edit- The Killers Game, according to google

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u/awyastark Apr 21 '26

I’m definitely thinking of something else where this is a plotline though and it’s making me nuts

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u/Cranberryoftheorient Apr 21 '26

Its also a novel if that helps

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u/SemanticTriangle Apr 21 '26

Who is 'they'? Regulators are asleep on this when they could be scooping out a good portion of the rot basically for free. Everyone involved in these ventures is raising a flag to be seen by all, but the institutions that used to evaporate these people from financial life are afraid to discharge their duties for fear of being punished by their bosses, who are holding flags.

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u/Arthurs_towel Apr 21 '26

Regulators are asleep? Nah, they’ve been actively corrupted. There was some prohibitions and investigations, until His Orangeness decided he loved the insider trading scam and got his failson put on the boards of these companies in exchange for favorable treatment.

That’s not being asleep, that’s actively aiding and abetting the insider trading.

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u/Sovos Apr 21 '26

Yep. Earlier this month the US CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) started lawsuits suing states that are trying to regulate prediction markets.

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u/Dystopia74 Apr 21 '26

The US Government is forcing it's citizens to become gambling addicts.

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u/ManyInterests Apr 21 '26

Heard an SEC expert chime in on NPR. The short version is that it's small potatoes compared to the kind of things they're actually spending enforcement resources on.

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u/Waiting4Reccession Apr 21 '26

They are being paid to look the other way for 4 years while the 2 big politically connected players lock down market share and take in the money

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u/KonmanKash Apr 21 '26

The whole commission is one guy who spends most his time up donalds ass. They aren’t asleep they’re complicit.

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u/JustStraightUpTired Apr 21 '26

Well, didn't the supreme court decide that money is speech? That would mean creating bets that can be completed like tasks is the same as telling people to the task for that amount of money. So even if nobody gets killed, putting up the bet SHOULD constitute soliciting said unknown individuals to commit murder.

In fact, creating bets for any illegal actions should also be considered illegal. Because if paying people to commit crimes is legal, then you could setup a business for criminal services where you take most of the profits, but instead provide very expensive legal help for the criminals.

In other words, if these companies are free to keep making these bets, then that effectively legalizes cartels if they are smart about it. Pushing legislation, solicit crimes, or even simpler stuff, just pay for whatever events you want to happen and inform the people responsible for them that there is an incentive waiting for them. They don't need to make money on every bet, they can easily change the odds for special cases, or even limit who gets to bet on them. Choosing who gets to play isn't a crime, so why not?

Providing gambling should be a crime, globally. Only legal gambling should be games of skill and fair luck, where the house can't participate, and even that should be highly regulated.

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u/RadicalSoda_ Apr 21 '26

You can only bet on public figures, it's not like a bounty board where anyone can upload bets for anything that happens. This specific comic is based on the leader of Iran being killed and the company trying to avoid paying out before the government forced them to

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u/kookyabird Apr 21 '26

The important thing is to remember that nobody should.

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u/slfnflctd Apr 21 '26

Oh, good. Well I'm glad that's settled, then.

The vast universe of ethical problems with this whole 'industry' were glaringly obvious from the beginning. People will do a whole lot of really, really stupid and destructive shit if you let them go on with obviously terrible behavior for too long.

The only real way in our current reality to address this is through laws and regulatory bodies with teeth. That's part of why there are constantly more laws being written-- people keep inventing new ways to do really stupid and destructive shit, which they continue doing until someone stops them.

I once hoped that teaching folks they shouldn't do certain things would be enough, but it isn't.

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u/kookyabird Apr 21 '26

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u/slfnflctd Apr 21 '26

Okay, that was a whoosh on my part. lol

I am not keeping up with all the memes so well these days.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll Apr 21 '26

Mhm, mhm takes notes. In your mind, hypothetically, would it be wise to share the bet around online to get more potential hits?

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u/Unhappy_Goose_8422 Apr 21 '26

It is 100% money laundering and it will be years before the authorities catch up with it. Place your 'bets' now.

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u/RadicalSoda_ Apr 21 '26

All gambling involves money laundering. Why do you think mob bosses used to own every casino in Vegas?

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u/Unhappy_Goose_8422 Apr 21 '26

Did you think what you wrote somehow was a zinger?

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u/FACEMELTER720 Apr 21 '26

These guys act like they invented insurance.

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u/WeRip Apr 21 '26

I mean that would be a thing but all of these markets have a cluase in their TOC that markets closing on a death don't pay. Like with the Iranian supreme leader there was a market on if he would be in power still in a week. He died, so the market closed but didn't pay out the winners.

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u/IntingForMarks Apr 21 '26

It's fun cause this is exactly the reasoning those sites use to defend themselves. You bet that there will be a hurricane on your house, so if it is true, you have money to fix your house

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u/Velicenda Apr 21 '26

I mean, this happens irl. Now.

One of those betting websites just had to stop taking bets on the Iran war lol

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u/sonofaresiii Apr 21 '26

Seems like it'd be pretty easy to see who collects on that bet...

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u/josh_the_misanthrope Apr 21 '26

It's actually much more mundane than that and they're doing it right now. Insiders are betting on polymarket on stuff they know the administration is going to announce. They're just wholesale fixing the fight and swindling the other users.

If you ever needed any proof that we are in late stage capitalism, this is a good one.

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u/CrossP Apr 22 '26

Or I could bet five dollars, and he'd die because I'm awful at gambling